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Post by Tinuviel on Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:56 pm

Fantastic! Happy Belated Birthday Petty! Although I'm not too happy about having to sail around the world searching for the last remaining bottles of Buckie as a result of the party we had on Valinor.....

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Post by bungobaggins on Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:23 pm

Eldorion wrote:Buckie cake?! issuchathingevenpossible.gif

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:23 pm

Angmar and Sons will be in touch Blue!

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Post by Mrs Figg on Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:15 pm

its the News of the World all over again. No

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Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETTY

Post by Bluebottle on Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:22 pm

Oh, didn't you like it? Oh, well. It was just a silly idea really, based mostly on some tounge in cheek comments you made about the quality of their journalism and that I thought you deserved some attention from them too.

I will of course respond to any legal communications forthwith.

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Post by azriel on Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:55 pm

Blue............"I will of course respond to any legal communications forthwith."
{{{ using a false name & address Very Happy }}}
{{{I thought the idea was a good one Blue Very Happy }}}


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Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETTY

Post by Bluebottle on Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:00 pm

"Poste restante in Argentina." Wink

As one of my teachers used to say about the possibility of catching anyone who swindled you, if he didn't want that to be the case in his current example.

I guess the thing about comedy is that it doesn't always translate.. or relate. And if that's the case, I guess all one can hope for is that it doesn't offend.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:02 pm

Oh, didn't you like it?- Blue

Of course I did! Thank you for doing it. pub

But I am afraid the actions of Pure Publications and their troll International Media Magnet Head, Bear Muirdock, and their legal wing, Angmar and Sons are well outwith my control. pale
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Post by Bluebottle on Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:59 pm

Ah, haha. God. Well, I'm glad you liked it. Nod  The last thing I needed was for another person on here to be angry with me.

Looking at this from a legal point of view for a second (as it amuses me), a court case about this might actually be interesting.

As a copyright breach I don't think they would have a case, first as I'm not sure I reproduced any copyrighted information, and even if I had, the fact that it's a parody I think is quite obviuos. And parodies are exempt from normal copyright protection.

The question then is wether, if we assume the NotP logo is a registered trademark, there might a trademark breach here. Now, the same rules apply as far as exemption from the rights of trademark holder in case of parody. But aside from the actual content of the released material, which I would say is an obvious parody, the actual NotP logo is exactly the same as in a normal NotP release. The legal question would then be if this is likely to confuse people, in as far as they would wonder if this was an actual NotP release, or, if not, if it would imply some kind of financial connection betwen me and the NotP.

In other words, the considerations of an exemption as a parody would be a different and stricter consideration under trademark rules

So, it's possible they might have a case there. Perhaps seeing the whole released parody front page, which so obviously is not up to the level of a normal NotP release, would make any confusion as to origin unlikely. But it's definitely not a clear cut question, with the trademark reproduced exactly, as it is.

Yeah.. an interesting pondery.

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Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETTY

Post by azriel on Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:23 pm

The legal beagle is biting the bone.

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Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETTY

Post by Bluebottle on Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:34 am

I'll not be beaten that easily. Mad

I'll primarily hold that this as a parody does not constitute a trademark breach.

I'll subsidiarily hold that there is no confusion of origin or implication of financial connection, and therefore no trademark breach.  

If that doesn't work I'll tertiarily hold that the NotP has relinquished it's trademark protection through non use. (Below the belt perhaps, but this is litigation.)

And if that doesn't work.. Well, there's always Argentina. Razz

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Post by Bluebottle on Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:24 pm



Ah.. that seems to have dealt with it. Very Happy

Goodgood.

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Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETTY

Post by Norc on Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:27 pm

Da fuk happened here scratch
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Post by azriel on Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:19 pm

Forumshire being Forumshire Laughing thats wot ! Very Happy

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:22 pm

Ah.. that seems to have dealt with it.- Blue

Angmar and Sons are considering their position{{Between you and me they dont like dealing with fellow lawyers, preferring to take people to court who know absolutely nothing about what is going on}}}

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Post by Bluebottle on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:05 pm

{{{Obviously. Rolling Eyes We could have a look at that contract of yours, you know. Ambiguity in the meaning of something in a contract is as a basic contract law principle interpreted to the benefit of the one who didn't draft it. Which I guess would be you.}}}

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:08 pm

We could have a look at that contract of yours- Blue

You mean I have to go dig it back up (I mean that literally I got so crabbit at the bloody thing I buried it)

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Post by Bluebottle on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:14 pm

Ah, well. Perhaps compost was the best use for it. Wink

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:15 pm

are we having a NotP for Pettys birthday? or just cos.

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Post by Bluebottle on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:17 pm

I made one, yeah. Wink Which led to the present legal.. considerations.

It's on the last page.

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:20 pm

hmm wheres the Hobbit Lass page 3?

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Post by Bluebottle on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:21 pm

Wherever she is, she's probably hung over.. Shrugging

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:27 pm

{{{{{Figg it always feels rather weird, self indulgent to make myself a birthday edition. But never fear the NotP is returning with a new look- well newish}}}}

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:33 pm

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Post by Bluebottle on Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:38 am

Um.. do I have something to look forward too? Sofa

The thought of an NotP edition devoted to me is a bit daunting at the moment, considering the current legal.. err.. predicament I'm in with their proprietor.

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