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Post by Norc on Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:09 pm

Or catching up with friends and family i haven't seen for 4 months
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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:35 pm

Mad Get your priorities straight lass! Mad

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Post by halfwise on Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:14 pm

Norc wrote:
I'd love to go to new York and watch cumberbatch but i just don't have the funds Sad

Given that I'm not in a position to go into heart palpitations over the guy I don't know if I'll be plomping down $50 to go see him, but these events often show up on youtube. The GRR Martin interview that recently made the rounds here is from the same event series.

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Post by Norc on Tue Nov 04, 2014 7:29 pm

Yeah, my bets are on that Smile and anyway, who knows, Morten Tyldum is Norwegian, maybe Bcumbs will end up here one day Smile or at least closer Nod like "skavlan"... Wait... He films in London now ? scratch
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Post by Eldorion on Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:01 pm

Good to see you again, Norc! I hope that you've been enjoying life away from home. Smile
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Post by Norc on Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:32 pm

I am Smile but i feel a bit homesick when i ser people back home reporting of MAGNIFICENT northern lights lightening up the sky Sad
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Post by Ringdrotten on Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:40 pm

Speaking of country music (in the music thread), has any of my fellow fjordians here read Dagbladet's review of Gaute Grøtta Grav's new album? Or better yet, heard the album? I read the review and I wasn't able to take it seriously. I thought perhaps the journalist was being overly critical, because that's what some music journalists do, but then I heard bits and pieces of all the songs on spotify, and I don't know whether to laugh or cry - I think this might do:slap laugh

http://www.dagbladet.no/2014/11/13/kultur/musikk/musikkanmeldelser/anmeldelser/country/36199349/

"Deres «Himmelblå» høres ut som den er kjøpt på billigsalg fra Shania Twains overskuddslager." made me laugh Laughing  A rough translation (with a few artistic liberties) for you foreigners ( Mad )- Their version of Himmelblå sounds like something bought on discount from a Shania Twain surplus store

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:21 pm

Very Happy


Hi again Norc. It's been swear-less around here lately without you!

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Post by Ringdrotten on Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:14 pm


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Post by halfwise on Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:31 pm


A whole 2.5 minutes of a young Norwegian lady with no swearing? Shocked Tain't right. Unacceptable, I call it.

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Post by Eldorion on Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:07 am

That's probably because she's Italian.  Note that the flag on her hat. Wink Also, the caption talks about how she learned Norwegian.
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Post by Ringdrotten on Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:38 pm

More specifically, how she learned Nynorsk, and not what most foreign speakers usually learn, bokmål. And I think I've made my opinions on that matter clear enough in the past Very Happy

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Post by huffjuff on Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:36 am

Agreed with Norc. Can't wait to go north again for christmas! I am taking some northern light pictures, so maybe I will be uploading some during the holidays Smile

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Post by Norc on Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:50 am

We had a french teacher in *shock* french, but she also had history (not my teacher) but she had learned til talk and write nynorsk. And because she is french and foreign she had ofcourse a
Very conservative nynorsk ... Poor people trying to learn french and doing it through nynorsk Laughing
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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:23 pm

so maybe I will be uploading some during the holidays- huffjuff

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Post by Ringdrotten on Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:24 pm

My first school used to teach Nynorsk, not bokmål - used to. But tonight there was a vote over whether or not to change this, and the people has spoken: The last elementary school in the entire county which taught every subject in Nynorsk is now going to teach that c#%sucking bokmål (and tonight I refuse to capitalise that hideous word) if the politicians pay any heed to the vote, which they most certainly will. What provokes me the most is seeing what sort of arguments and lowly tricks many of those who voted for bokmål turned to in their efforts to "be rid of" Nynorsk - they've been spreading false information in people's mail boxes, and their main argument boils down to "Nynorsk sucks". Some of you might think of this as hypocrisy since I myself often write in bokmål, but so be it. It's about more than that.


These people do not realise what a huge mistake they have made. A couple of months ago I wrote an essay and had it published in the local newspaper. I tired to explain the major advantages those of us who went to this school had when we grew older and went to high school (or whatever, when we turned 12/13) and we suddenly had to learn both of the written languages. I won't go into detail about that here, but the fact is that we aced them both. Not only that, we did better in foreign languages as well. All because we had learned Nynorsk from when we were six, and bokmål was something we had picked up from TV, newspapers, books and computer games. We never had to learn it, because it's everywhere and we knew it already. Now, because of the parents, the very same ones who should be having their children's best interests in mind, the kids from our little corner of the world won't have this advantage. They'll probably grow up to hate Nynorsk like so many others do (there are of course exceptions, like our own wonderful Nora - thanks for being an awesome person). What pains me the most is that people refuse to realise how beautiful this language can be. They just can't be bothered with learning it, or perhaps they're simply too incompetent to do so. All they're ever interested in doing is piss on everyone who's not of the opinion that bokmål should be our only written language. They're probably not even capable of recognising a language for what it really is - it's more than a mere means of vocalising a %¤& "hello" in the morning, it's bloody art. Pick up your bokmål translations of The Lord of the Rings, fellow fjordians, and compare:

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Lament for Boromir, as translated by Eilev Groven Myrens translation in Ringdrotten:

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Frå havsens os flyg sunnandvind, han flyg yver steinut strond;
han kjem med høge måseryl og styn ved døri trong.
"Kva nytt kjem du med, du sukkand' vind, på vegen upp frå sud?
Kvar finst min fagre Boromir? Han drygjer, og eg ber sut."
"Spyr ikkje meg kvar han lakkar - det ligg att mang ein skrott
på kvitan strond, på svartan strond under myrke stormkavs brott;
så mange hev fare Anduin ned på leit etter fløymand' hav.
Frett heller nytt or nordanvind, frett honom kvar dei fór av!"
"Å Boromir! Burtum dyrane renn mot havet våte veg,
frå havsens os kom måseryl, men ikkje frette eg deg."


And tell me that the bokmål translation ever came anywhere close to this. This is a sad day Sad

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:32 pm

Really sorry to hear about this Ringdrotten.
I agree with everything you say.
Something similar happens here with Gaelic, the majority just don't seem to see the point of teaching it to our children, but its more than just something to say, it can say things in a manner english cannot, especially as its from an entirely different and older root. Like all languages there are concepts in it that dont really translate without losing something of their beauty and secondary meanings.
In the half dozen primary schools in my area one of them offers gaelic.


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Post by Amarië on Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:43 pm

That is so sad. Sad

We are luckily in a Nynorsk municipal, I used Nynorsk textbooks in Uni if they exchisted (I got the Uni bookstore to order them) and I use English and Nynorsk at work.

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Post by Ringdrotten on Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:45 pm

Beautiful song, petty.

This was the only primary school in our area which taught Nynorsk - in fact, it was the only one in both North and South Trøndelag counties which have a combined population of 440 000. There has also been a debate for many years now about shutting the school down. The fact that it teaches in Nynorsk has kept it alive, but the next time that debate flares up it'll be shut down in a matter of days. I hope these bloody parents are happy with that. I used to love walking to school, or skiing there and back again (no reference to beloved works intended) with my friends. It was only a couple of kilometres from home, but we would spend hours walking back because there was so much fun to be had on the way. In a few years the kids will have to ride buses for miles, and lose that part of their childhood as well. Way to go Sad

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:11 pm

Sadly there is far too much of this sort of nonsense. Kids spending all their times indoors, getting bused and driven everywhere when they have to go anywhere (we never thought anything of walking the couple of miles between village and town, it was part of going there- there is a small loch on the way, and forests, and fields of sheep and horses, tons of birds and the occasional exciting glimpse of deer. Its just a blur of greenery and 2 secs of blue loch in a car and you notice nothing, or if you do you are passed it so quick you can't enjoy or appreciate it) and when kids do get to do stuff outdoors it seems it always has to be supervised now. Mad

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Post by Mrs Figg on Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:19 pm

are kids allowed out to play on their own these days?

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:24 pm

I was listening to a Norsk folksong-



And it occurred to me that it shares to my ear a similarity to gaelic in that both are very lyrical, even when just spoken there is a sense its being sung at you. They are languages which take delight in the sounds themselves not just the meanings. And the sound itself seems to form more a part of the context and meaning than in english.
To my ear English is very practical, more precise, but also more reserved, and whilst there are some beautiful sounding words in english, I have many favourites, there don't seem to be quite as many or as great a variety, or such a delight in the sounds for their own sake and beauty.

It would be a shame to lose that entirely from either of our cultures.


are kids allowed out to play on their own these days? - Figg

I think if they do the parents get arrested for negligence Mad

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Post by huffjuff on Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:14 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:so maybe I will be uploading some during the holidays- huffjuff

What do you mean 'maybe'?! Mad  

My internet @home is not very stable in the holidays. I have no idea why, but I will do my very best to get them uploaded Smile

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:07 pm

I'll let you off then, this time! {{{ Mad }}}}

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Post by huffjuff on Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:53 pm

WOOHOO!!! Norway

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