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Post by halfwise on Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:20 pm

Don't get me started.....

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Oh, OKAY, I'll repeat a vent from long ago, 'cause the steam just keeps building up. Every other deviation from the book the scriptwriters at least gave a reason for. So whether or not you agreed with the reasons they do get credit for having some attempt at logic behind what they did.

But they NEVER explained why they *&%$!!ed up Denethor so badly. I got the feeling they actually believed that was a good condensation of the character. So it's the ONE thing in the films I can NOT forgive.

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Post by Orwell on Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:35 am

But they NEVER explained why they *&%$!!ed up Denethor so badly. I got the feeling they actually believed that was a good condensation of the character. So it's the ONE thing in the films I can NOT forgive.

No, nor barely anything else either! Banghead

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Post by chris63 on Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:06 pm


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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:43 pm

Not sure about that at all- christian rock band for the music? Focusing on Tolkiens Christianising of Lewis? Sounds like a bad propoganda film- I dont mind a proper study of the men and the part their beliefs played in their lives Carpenters biagraphy does a reasoned job of it) but this seems to have a bit of a Church agenda about it.

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Post by Orwell on Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:26 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Not sure about that at all- christian rock band for the music? Focusing on Tolkiens Christianising of Lewis? Sounds like a bad propoganda film- I dont mind a proper study of the men and the part their beliefs played in their lives Carpenters biagraphy does a reasoned job of it) but this seems to have a bit of a Church agenda about it.



Nooooooooooooooooooo! WWI - maybe - and Linguistics - absolutely - and the Old Eddas - without a doubt ---- his Christianity is NOT the HEART of HIM (JRRT), but just PART of IT (his Life spent in Faery).

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Post by Tinuviel on Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:54 pm

true, but his christianity greatly affected Lewis, and I have a feeling this film is leaning more toward Lewis anyway

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Post by Orwell on Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:17 am

A film about Tolkien and Lewis? A doco film, or a drama?

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Post by Ally on Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:28 pm

What about a comedy staring the Chuckle Brothers? I'd watch that, for sure

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Post by Mrs Figg on Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:00 pm

I'll stick to Cheech and Chong.

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Post by chris63 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:49 am

Tolkien & the Environment

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:57 pm

A grandson of JRR Tolkien and a descendant of Charles Dickens are to collaborate on two new fantasy books for children.
Poet Michael Tolkien, the eldest grandson of the The Hobbit author, will write two novels based on stories his grandfather read to him as a child.
Gerald Dickens, the great-great grandson of Charles, will narrate the audiobook versions.
It tells the story of two children who set out to use an evil enchanter's wishing chain of stones to save their alpine valley, only to fall into trouble.
Michael Tolkien was introduced to the tales in the 1940s and 1950s as a child, and he later read them to his own children.
He said he decided to pay tribute to the now-neglected tale and to "recreate the spirit of the original in new dress".- BBC news

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Post by Tinuviel on Wed May 02, 2012 3:44 am

I was reading up on Tolkien on Wikipedia, and I came across this quote of his when someone asked for the rights to make a film script, his response:

"I would ask them to make an effort of imagination sufficient to understand the irritation (and on occasion the resentment) of an author, who finds, increasingly as he proceeds, his work treated as it would seem carelessly in general, in places recklessly, and with no evident signs of any appreciation of what it is all about"

Oh PJ, would you get an earful if he was still alive!

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Post by Orwell on Wed May 02, 2012 7:06 am

Yep ... and with him gone, his Faithful MUST continue to fight against The New Shadow (PJ), however hopeless the task may seem.

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Post by chris63 on Tue May 15, 2012 5:25 am

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Post by Eldorion on Thu May 17, 2012 5:29 am

Everyone knows that Tolkien was a devout Catholic but when one tries to shoehorn Tolkien's invented world into strict Catholic dogma one ends up making embarassing mistakes like this:

So death became (by Christ) a Gift to Men - so long as there is faith and hope; while elves could (perhaps) only look forward to 'more of the same' and to be destroyed when the world ended.

Or elves might hope to join Men beyond of the world in Heaven, but (presumably, since they will not have been resurrected) as un-perfected and lower beings than the Sons of God...?

PROTIP: The Elves are also considered to be Children of Iluvatar -- in fact they are His elder children. {{{Sorry if this comes across as harsh, but people who try to use Tolkien as a tool for evangelizing have long been a pet peeve of mine. Rolling Eyes}}}

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Post by Amarië on Thu May 17, 2012 6:51 am

Rolling Eyes
I call upon St. Dogbert.

Almost....


There!

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu May 17, 2012 12:11 pm

Good ole Dogbert!

By a strange coincidence the next bit Im currently writing in my gospels discourse is all about titles like Son of Man and Son of God and what they originally meant- and its not anything like what is being implied here- I do wish religous folks would at least do a bit of research into what these things actually meant rather than assuming they already know.

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Post by Ally on Thu May 17, 2012 4:49 pm


Glad someone sorted that old one out. Been worrying about it for yonks.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu May 17, 2012 6:14 pm

lol!

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed May 30, 2012 3:05 am

That seems like a slightly more balanced look at the subject than most are. Could well be worth a read.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed May 30, 2012 3:20 am

Blimey I looke dit up on Amazon and they are wanting £30 for their book! £30 for a book of opinions. They must be kidding! Evil or Very Mad (I think my sporran is safe)

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Post by Ally on Wed May 30, 2012 9:28 pm

Wow! What a deal!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/J-R-R-Tolkiens-Double-Creative-Process/dp/023062314X/ref=pd_sim_b_3

So if I buy five copies of this book for £260 I cansell them (obvious market here guys Rolling Eyes) all for £270! I'm gunna be rich!!!!

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