Tolkien in General
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Don't get me started.....
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Oh, OKAY, I'll repeat a vent from long ago, 'cause the steam just keeps building up. Every other deviation from the book the scriptwriters at least gave a reason for. So whether or not you agreed with the reasons they do get credit for having some attempt at logic behind what they did.
But they NEVER explained why they *&%$!!ed up Denethor so badly. I got the feeling they actually believed that was a good condensation of the character. So it's the ONE thing in the films I can NOT forgive.
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Oh, OKAY, I'll repeat a vent from long ago, 'cause the steam just keeps building up. Every other deviation from the book the scriptwriters at least gave a reason for. So whether or not you agreed with the reasons they do get credit for having some attempt at logic behind what they did.
But they NEVER explained why they *&%$!!ed up Denethor so badly. I got the feeling they actually believed that was a good condensation of the character. So it's the ONE thing in the films I can NOT forgive.

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But they NEVER explained why they *&%$!!ed up Denethor so badly. I got the feeling they actually believed that was a good condensation of the character. So it's the ONE thing in the films I can NOT forgive.
No, nor barely anything else either!
No, nor barely anything else either!
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LEWIS, TOLKIEN COULD BE PLAYED BY JUDE LAW, TOM HARDY, OR HENRY CAVILL?
http://www.shadowlocked.com/201204112529/news/lewis-tolkien-could-be-played-by-jude-law-tom-hardy-henry-cavill.html
http://www.shadowlocked.com/201204112529/news/lewis-tolkien-could-be-played-by-jude-law-tom-hardy-henry-cavill.html

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Not sure about that at all- christian rock band for the music? Focusing on Tolkiens Christianising of Lewis? Sounds like a bad propoganda film- I dont mind a proper study of the men and the part their beliefs played in their lives Carpenters biagraphy does a reasoned job of it) but this seems to have a bit of a Church agenda about it.
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Pettytyrant101 wrote:Not sure about that at all- christian rock band for the music? Focusing on Tolkiens Christianising of Lewis? Sounds like a bad propoganda film- I dont mind a proper study of the men and the part their beliefs played in their lives Carpenters biagraphy does a reasoned job of it) but this seems to have a bit of a Church agenda about it.
Nooooooooooooooooooo! WWI - maybe - and Linguistics - absolutely - and the Old Eddas - without a doubt ---- his Christianity is NOT the HEART of HIM (JRRT), but just PART of IT (his Life spent in Faery).
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true, but his christianity greatly affected Lewis, and I have a feeling this film is leaning more toward Lewis anyway
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A film about Tolkien and Lewis? A doco film, or a drama?
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What about a comedy staring the Chuckle Brothers? I'd watch that, for sure
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A grandson of JRR Tolkien and a descendant of Charles Dickens are to collaborate on two new fantasy books for children.
Poet Michael Tolkien, the eldest grandson of the The Hobbit author, will write two novels based on stories his grandfather read to him as a child.
Gerald Dickens, the great-great grandson of Charles, will narrate the audiobook versions.
It tells the story of two children who set out to use an evil enchanter's wishing chain of stones to save their alpine valley, only to fall into trouble.
Michael Tolkien was introduced to the tales in the 1940s and 1950s as a child, and he later read them to his own children.
He said he decided to pay tribute to the now-neglected tale and to "recreate the spirit of the original in new dress".- BBC news
Poet Michael Tolkien, the eldest grandson of the The Hobbit author, will write two novels based on stories his grandfather read to him as a child.
Gerald Dickens, the great-great grandson of Charles, will narrate the audiobook versions.
It tells the story of two children who set out to use an evil enchanter's wishing chain of stones to save their alpine valley, only to fall into trouble.
Michael Tolkien was introduced to the tales in the 1940s and 1950s as a child, and he later read them to his own children.
He said he decided to pay tribute to the now-neglected tale and to "recreate the spirit of the original in new dress".- BBC news
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I was reading up on Tolkien on Wikipedia, and I came across this quote of his when someone asked for the rights to make a film script, his response:
"I would ask them to make an effort of imagination sufficient to understand the irritation (and on occasion the resentment) of an author, who finds, increasingly as he proceeds, his work treated as it would seem carelessly in general, in places recklessly, and with no evident signs of any appreciation of what it is all about"
Oh PJ, would you get an earful if he was still alive!
"I would ask them to make an effort of imagination sufficient to understand the irritation (and on occasion the resentment) of an author, who finds, increasingly as he proceeds, his work treated as it would seem carelessly in general, in places recklessly, and with no evident signs of any appreciation of what it is all about"
Oh PJ, would you get an earful if he was still alive!
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Yep ... and with him gone, his Faithful MUST continue to fight against The New Shadow (PJ), however hopeless the task may seem.
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Some old footage from the BCC.

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What happens after death.
http://notionclubpapers.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/what-happens-after-death-insights-from.html
http://notionclubpapers.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/what-happens-after-death-insights-from.html

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