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Post by halfwise on Sun May 03, 2015 7:50 am

I grew up in this state.  Rolling Eyes

Texas Governor Deploys National Guard To Stave Off Obama Takeover
MAY 02, 2015 9:27 PM ET  (NPR)

WADE GOODWYN

Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott ordered the Texas National Guard to monitor a joint U.S. Special Forces training taking place in Texas, prompting outrage from some in his own party.

Since General Sam Houston executed his famous retreat to glory to defeat the superior forces of General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, Texas has been ground zero for military training. We have so many military bases in the Lone Star State we could practically attack Russia.

So when rookie Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced he was ordering the Texas National Guard to monitor a Navy SEAL/Green Beret joint training exercise, which was taking place in Texas and several other states, everybody here looked up from their iPhones. What?

It seems there is concern among some folks that this so-called training maneuver is just a cover story. What's really going on? President Obama is about to use Special Forces to put Texas under martial law.

Let's walk over by the fence where nobody can hear us, and I'll tell you the story.

You see, there are these Wal-Marts in West Texas that supposedly closed for six months for "renovation." That's what they want you to believe. The truth is these Wal-Marts are going to be military guerrilla-warfare staging areas and FEMA processing camps for political prisoners. The prisoners are going to be transported by train cars that have already been equipped with shackles.

Don't take my word for it. That comes directly from a Texas Ranger, who seems pretty plugged in, if you ask me. You and I both know President Obama has been waiting a long time for this, and now it's happening. It's a classic false flag operation. Don't pay any attention the mainstream media; all they're going to do is lie and attack everyone who's trying to tell you the truth.

"It is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed upon."
- Gov. Greg Abbott, R-Texas
Did I mention the ISIS terrorists? They've come across the border and are going to hit soft targets all across the Southwest. They've set up camp a few miles outside of El Paso.

That includes a Mexican army officer and Mexican federal police inspector. Not sure what they're doing there, but probably nothing good. That's why the Special Forces guys are here, get it? To wipe out ISIS and impose martial law. So now you know, whaddya say we get back to the party and grab another beer?

It's true that the paranoid world-view of right-wing militia types has remarkable stamina. But that's not news.

What is news is that there seem to be enough of them in Texas to influence the governor of the state to react — some might use the word pander — to them.

That started Monday when a public briefing by the Army in Bastrop County, which is just east of Austin, got raucous. The poor U.S. Army colonel probably just thought he was going to give a regular briefing, but instead 200 patriots shouted him down, told him was a liar and grilled him about the imminent federal takeover of Texas and subsequent imposition of martial law.

"We just want to make sure our guys are trained. We want to hone our skills," Lt. Col. Mark Listoria tried to explain in vain.

One wonders what Listoria was thinking to himself as he walked to his car after two hours of his life he'll never get back. God bless Texas? Maybe not.

The next day Gov. Abbott decided he had to take action. He announced that he was going to ask the State Guard to monitor Operation Jade Helm from start to finish.

"It is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed upon," Abbott said.

The idea that the Yankee military can't be trusted down here has a long and rich history in Texas. But that was a while back. Abbott's proclamation that he was going to keep his eye on these Navy SEAL and Green Beret boys did rub some of our leaders the wrong way.

Former Texas Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst tried to put it in perspective for outsiders when he explained, "Unfortunately, some Texans have projected their legitimate concerns about the competence and trustworthiness of President Barack Obama on these noble warriors. This must stop."

Another former Republican politician was a bit more pointed.

"Your letter pandering to idiots ... has left me livid," former State Rep. Todd Smith wrote Gov. Abbott. "I am horrified that I have to choose between the possibility that my Governor actually believes this stuff and the possibility that my Governor doesn't have the backbone to stand up to those who do."

There's no argument that after the 2014 election, Texas politics took a further step to the right. The 84th session of the state legislature has given ample proof of that. But the events of this last week have been an eye-opener for Texans of all political stripes.

You will find the names of Texans etched into marble at war memorials from Goliad to Gettysburg, from Verdun to the Ardennes and Washington, D.C. The governor's proposition that these soldiers and sailors constitute a potential threat and need watching as they go about their duties, certainly stakes out some new political ground for the leader of the Texas GOP to stand on.

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Re: Continuing proofs that *Texas* is Wacko

Post by Eldorion on Sun May 03, 2015 12:13 pm

It should go without saying that this is paranoid and ridiculous.  However, this quote --

Former Texas Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst tried to put it in perspective for outsiders when he explained, "Unfortunately, some Texans have projected their legitimate concerns about the competence and trustworthiness of President Barack Obama on these noble warriors. This must stop."

-- was kind of amusing to me because it highlights the mental disconnect in many hardcore conservatives who are suspicious of everything the government does, unless it involves the military or police, when suddenly they can't help falling over themselves to heap praise on whatever the government is doing. A profound lack of nuance in both positions.
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Re: Continuing proofs that *Texas* is Wacko

Post by malickfan on Sun May 03, 2015 2:15 pm

Eldo, your current Avatar is a very appropriate response to this.

Texas certainly seems a...unique place when it comes to politics.

Isn't there a secession movement atm?


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Post by Eldorion on Sun May 03, 2015 2:35 pm

It fits a lot of situations. Very Happy

To be fair to Texas, I don't think their secession movement really has anymore widespread support than, say, Vermont's. (Yes, there is a Vermont secession movement.) The only really worrying thing about it to me is when politicians like Rick Perry bring up the secession issue, but they're just trying to score easy points, not seriously advocating for it.
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Post by malickfan on Sun May 03, 2015 2:43 pm

Eldorion wrote:It fits a lot of situations. Very Happy

Vermont's.  (Yes, there is a Vermont secession movement.)  

I did think that was kinda silly (Vermontnis landlocked sharing three borders, how would it work?), then I remembered there was an Isle of Wight Independence movement...


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Re: Continuing proofs that *Texas* is Wacko

Post by bungobaggins on Sun May 03, 2015 5:17 pm

American secession movements in the 21st century are like a preteen having a fight with their parents. It may seem unfair that they can't go over to their boyfriend's house while his parents aren't home, but they will come around eventually.

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Post by David H on Sun May 03, 2015 5:56 pm

Washington and Oregon have a long-standing secessionist movement (see Cascadia),
but some of the urgency has gone out of the movement since we legalized pot. Very Happy

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Re: Continuing proofs that *Texas* is Wacko

Post by Eldorion on Mon May 04, 2015 2:15 am

malickfan wrote:I did think that was kinda silly (Vermontnis landlocked sharing three borders, how would it work?), then I remembered there was an Isle of Wight Independence movement...

Well, I think bungo is correct about the nature of of modern American secessionism, but Vermont can actually claim to have been an independent state (during the late 18th century) for longer than Texas was. Though Hawaii has them both beat by a country mile.
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Post by Orwell on Mon May 04, 2015 2:17 am

David H wrote:Washington and Oregon have a long-standing secessionist movement (see Cascadia),
but some of the urgency has gone out of the movement since we legalized pot. Very Happy


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