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Re: The Desolation of TV News

Post by Eldorion on Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:12 am

For what it's worth (and I don't think it's worth much), the guy just told me that Variety is wrong and the rights to TS are on the table "with certain creative restrictions". This is the first time I have heard anything about this and I didn't spend six-plus years following Hobbit movie news and rumors without developing a bullshit detector, but whaddaya know, maybe this is one of those vanishingly rare exceptions. I highly doubt it, though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/lotr/comments/7pqcrq/im_a_screenwriter_developing_a_script_for_amazons/dsk6imy/
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Post by halfwise on Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:22 pm

he's gotten very few replies. Perhaps other people have their BS detectors working as well.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:20 am

Good detective work Eldo!

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Re: The Desolation of TV News

Post by Eldorion on Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:53 am

Thanks Forest!

Alas, the guy has not posted in a week, since another Redditor asked him to back up his claim regarding the rights situation.
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Post by Bluebottle on Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:53 pm

I guess with the Silmarillion, anyone spreading rumours about Tolkien rights, these legendary tv/movie rights of the Silmarillion will come up. Now if this guy had really had written an official script for Amazon on a series based on such rights, or written an official script for Amazon on any Tolkien project, I am sure his contract would be full of non-disclosure terms, and he would certainly not be bragging about it online, no? Shrugging

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:04 am

He didn't claim that he wrote anything while in the employment of Amazon, only that he was submitting screenplays to Amazon for consideration.

I could submit screenplays to Amazon for consideration, so it's not saying much that he is planning on doing so.

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Post by Bluebottle on Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:06 pm

Yes, but you wouldn't submit scripts on your own volition, and have inside knowledge of the of the production and its plans. If you are let on the inside of the production enough to know something of value in an official capacity, you will certainly have signed things thta limit your ability to talk about them publicly. Shrugging

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Re: The Desolation of TV News

Post by azriel on Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:37 pm

Mmmm, Blue might be on to something me thinks

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Re: The Desolation of TV News

Post by Bluebottle on Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:35 pm

It is of course perfectly possible that someone may have spoken without permission, but I guess we can only judge on likehood here, what sounds more likely? Shrugging

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Re: The Desolation of TV News

Post by Eldorion on Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:56 pm

Not strictly Middle-earth TV news, but since things have been so quiet on that front, I found it interesting to read that Amazon is apparently working on a Conan series as well.

https://deadline.com/2018/02/amazon-developing-conan-drama-based-robert-e-howard-books-colony-co-creator-1202278547/
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Post by malickfan on Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:43 pm

Wasn't there talk of Arnie doing another Conan film a couple of years ago?

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Re: The Desolation of TV News

Post by Eldorion on Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:03 pm

That sounds vaguely familiar but I just Googled it and it apparently the plug was pulled last year, though they mentioned a TV show as a possibility back then. Shrugging

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Post by halfwise on Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:23 pm

The Federalist is about the last place I'd look for, well....anything. But they published an essay on Tolkien and modern interpretations which may not have much new, but I think it well written enough to point out. Especially given where (of all places) it was printed.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/09/uncultured-multiculturalism-and-the-problems-of-retelling-tolkiens-tales/

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:04 pm

{{Indeed that was a surprisingly good read,even if it semed to me to contain a hint of agenda against the notion of multiculturism in it. Which did not seem at all necessary to the rest of the piece. }}}

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:52 pm

I didn't get that feeling, myself. Rather, the author seemed to have a grudge against those who attempt to borrow from other cultures without spending enough time to get to know them. Nothing about is that is against multiculturalism, only against the idea that the people who speak out the most for multiculturalism are also the ones who understand these cultures the best. That's not necessarily the case, surely.

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Post by Eldorion on Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:22 pm

That popped up in my recommendations and I almost didn't click because I have been unimpressed by The Federalist in the past but it was pretty decent, yeah. I agree that it wasn't really actually about multiculturalism despite the digs thrown in. Ironically, the meat of the piece actually reads much more like a critique of cultural appropriation, despite the author's apparent dislike of "SJWs" (judging from a brief glance over his other posts to TF).

Despite their talk of multiculturalism, few of our cultural and entertainment leaders have much ability to understand cultures and perspectives other than their own. Their attempts to present something different tend to be caricatures, like homework done for an introductory anthropology course. There is little to no sensitivity for (or even awareness of) the rich experience of being contained within the compact symbols that express the order of existence in other cultures. They also rarely seek true understanding of different cultures or common human ground—that would require hard intellectual and imaginative work. They just want vaguely exotic spectacle.

You could copy and paste this paragraph verbatim into any number of tumblr posts and it wouldn't be out of place. Which I don't mean as a criticism because I agree with the basic point, but it's a little surprising. Razz
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Post by Forest Shepherd on Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:54 pm

The same side of two different coins, sounds like.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:27 am

Wasn't there talk of Arnie doing another Conan film a couple of years ago?- Malick


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