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Post by Eldorion on Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:02 pm

From io9.com

The Hobbit

Speaking to Total Film, director Peter Jackson explains how this film presented very different challenges than when directing the Lord of the Rings trilogy:

"The Hobbit is very much a children's book and The Lord of the Rings is something else; it's not really aimed at children at all. I realized the characters of the dwarves are the difference. Their energy and disdain of anything politically correct brings a new kind of spirit to it. And that's why I thought, OK, this could be fun!"


He also explains the particular challenges of portraying thirteen dwarves as distinct characters:

"That was something I worried about. I imagined 13 guys with long hair and beards and I thought, 'How are we ever going to know which dwarf is which? It's an ensemble from hell really. I thought nine members of the Fellowship was a problem; but here, with Bilbo and Gandalf, we've got 15. It's working out fine though. The dwarves give it a kind of childish, comedic quality that gives us a very different tone from The Lord of the Rings."


However, despite the different tone of the Hobbit films, Jackson says he wants to ensure it all feels like one large story of Middle-Earth:

"I want it to seem like we've gone back on location into Middle-earth; that these two movies feel like they belong at the beginning of the other three. We're the same filmmakers going into the same world."


Jackson also says that the films do retain some aspects of original director Guillermo del Toro's style and DNA, but these have largely been overshadowed by Jackson's own attempts to replicate his approach to The Lord of the Rings ten years ago.

As for how the two parts of The Hobbit divide up the story, Jackson's wife and writing partner Fran Walsh suggests the second movie will be primarily focused with what the article describes as "war, madness and dragon rage." She explains:

"We always saw The Hobbit more in the golden light of a fairytale. It's more playful. But by the time you get to the end, Tolkien is writing himself into that place where he can begin that epic journey of writing LOTR, which took, as he put it, his life's blood. All those heavier, darker themes which are so prevalent in the later trilogy start to come into play."


This actually makes me ... hopeful. I'm used to feeling anxious and excited about these films but this is new. I just hope PJ is able to preserve Tolkien's comic style rather than his own style that he demonstrated in LOTR. I find that rather doubtful. But I can hope! Very Happy

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Re: PJ on differences between TH and LOTR

Post by Ringdrotten on Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:05 pm

Nice read. Thanks for posting, Eldo Smile

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Re: PJ on differences between TH and LOTR

Post by Eldorion on Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:08 pm

My pleasure, Ringdrotten. Smile Between this and the song being included in the trailer I'm starting to wonder if we might actually see a reasonably faithful adaptation after all, or at least one that recognizes the distinct tone of The Hobbit. I suspect the White Council stuff will be more 'dramatic' but the prospects are looking rosier than they have in a long time. And it should give Petty plenty of fodder for editing. Laughing

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Post by Ringdrotten on Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:12 pm

He's really got no excuse for not making a faithful adaptation as he's making two films out of a story that short. I share your optimism, though Smile Even if I didn't like the trailer, the production videos are giving me hope. And the more Petty gets to work with, the happier I'll be Very Happy

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Re: PJ on differences between TH and LOTR

Post by Pettytyrant101 on Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:14 pm

Be no one happier than me if I have no work to do at all. But my cynicism on PJ knows few bounds and his sense of humour has been unchanged since his Bad Taste days.

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Re: PJ on differences between TH and LOTR

Post by Kafria on Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:18 pm

That's an interesting idea, that it is the character of the Dwarves themselves that makes the difference in tone.
I can see that view point, as kids we see people in terms of characteristics, perculiarities and oddities, as we grow we tend to see them in a wider context of the times they live in and the way they respond to that. Cool!

But if all that is altered is the fact that dwarves are daft, it isn't going to feel like a childs fairytale, just a farce!

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Re: PJ on differences between TH and LOTR

Post by Eldorion on Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:14 pm

PJ shared some more interesting thoughts on this issue just a few days ago. From MTV...

Speaking with MTV News at the Sundance Film Festival, Jackson explained that it was always his intention to keep "The Hobbit" tonally and visually consistent with the "Lord of the Rings" films.

"We wanted it to be a part of the five-film series," he explained. "Fortunately, Tolkien wrote a lot of extra material in the appendices of 'The Lord of the Rings,' where he himself kind of tied the two stories together, 20 or 30 years after the publication of 'The Hobbit.' So we've been able to use some of that material."

But even though Jackson's "Hobbit" isn't "as much of a children's story as the original book was," he's worked hard to make sure the films still "have some humor" to them. For example, Jackson promised that "some of the songs [from the novel] have made their way in there." Fans can get their first taste of those tunes in the "Hobbit" trailer, when the dwarves gather in Bilbo Baggins' humble abode to sing a somber song.

Finding that balance between staying true to the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy while allowing the "Hobbit" films to stand on their own has been an enjoyable challenge for Jackson, who is more than thrilled to once again be dabbling in dwarves and dragons.

"I'm enjoying the movie [as much as the fans], which is the thing that I'm really excited about," he said. "I love going to work every day. I love shooting it. In February, we start another 100 days of shooting, so by about July, we're done. We will have shot both movies by that stage."


All emphasis mine. Smile Interestingly, the comment about a five film series is similar to one that Guillermo del Toro made way back in October 2008.

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Re: PJ on differences between TH and LOTR

Post by Orwell on Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:51 pm

I'm not as optimistic as you are, Eldo, but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised, who knows? Rolling Eyes

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Re: PJ on differences between TH and LOTR

Post by Tinuviel on Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:44 am

Well, I suppose the titles will be appropriate then: Part 1, An Unexpected Journey.... to Dol Guldur. And Part 2, There and Back Again.... there being LOTR and back again meaning it ties into it! Rolling Eyes Pass me some buckie please!

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