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Post by RA on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:16 pm

Interesting study
It's tough though because most the lines are moved around so much in the movies.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:19 pm

She did look like she was gonna succumb when that sleaze bag Grima stroked her face & said she looked like a pale spring morning etc ? if only for a second. He did have a way with words ! (yuk..Grima ?!)- Azriel


Yes but its the wrong releationship- in the film he wants her and he sees into her heart (as hes actually using Gandalf words about her of course) and tries to use that to manipulate her into falling for him. And in the end she defiantly and outright rejects it.
In the book he is turning her against her own in bitterness, she could easily have come to see Rohan as just a bunch of scummy peasants on horses not worth giving her life away to when she ought to be and could be so much more. And from bitterness to hatred.
I think seeing that dynamic play out would be interesting.

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Post by Norc on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:27 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:the TT movie is the best one.- Norc

Of all my purist edits then Norc my version of TT is the one I would be most interested in your thoughts on- it was my least favourite of the 3 films but is now my favourite of my edits.
It would be interesting to know what someone who thought it was the best of the films therefore makes of my edit.

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:27 pm

I dont.

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Post by azriel on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:44 pm

Oh dear Mrs Figg, can you not still download it ? Im in the process of doing it but Ive encountered probs myself, all computerbobydiscombubalated ! Rolling Eyes

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:55 pm

Anything I can help with Azriel?

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Post by azriel on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:59 pm

Oh its my PC, I need a better graphics card thats all, Il get one cheap off Ebay or where-ever, The films downloaded, just jerky a tad cos card needs upgrading, Thankyou tho Petty ! Very Happy

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:01 pm

No probs- if you can get a file convertor program you can always convert it to non HD -reduce the picture quaity but make the file size much smaller so it will play smooth.

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Post by azriel on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:09 pm

Cheers me dears ! Very Happy

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Post by David H on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:12 pm

Mrs Figg wrote: When I hear people critisize LOTR for me its like hearing that someone has chopped up the Mona Lisa because they dont like the way Leonardo painted folded hands.

You know Mrs Figg, you and Petty are the classic case of being in violent agreement. Nod
Petty has never understood why PJ needed to chop up Tolkien's story in exactly the same way.
Having read the books many times before I say the movies,
and then seen the PJ Extended Editions several times before I say Petty's edits
I feel qualified to say that Petty's edits are every bit as respectful of PJ's movies as PJ and company are respectful of JRRT's books.
And I believe they are. To me they make 3 corners of a triangle telling the same story. It's pretty cool really!


So here you go! Very Happy

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:45 pm

sorry Dave but I love LOTR just the way PJ made them. For me they are perfection that I dont want to see chopped up. If you like the edits better thats your prerogative. I dont have an issue with edits and I wasnt referring to Pettys edits btw, I was talking about general critisism on forums, and when I say critisism I am talking about the endless and wearying negativity about every last detail. Thats why I dont post much on Bree, I got bored out of my mind with the carping, it used to be for discussion about Tolkien and degenerated into a PJ bashing forum, which is boring.

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Post by RA on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:10 am

I used to like Bree. Reading the back and forth between members made me think about my own views about the book's themes, but now it's just people stopping by to say they don't like the atmosphere and posters. That's boring, I think.

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Post by Mrs Figg on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:12 am

No yes its no fun any more. There used to be a lot of people with a good balance of views which made it interesing, but when its all negative it just goes in circles.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:36 am

I like circles, you always know where you are- slightly round the bend. Very Happy

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Post by David H on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:13 am

Yeah, I moved over here from Bree because it's just a lot more civil and fun.

I've been a Tolkien fan for about 40 years and I've met a lot of people who think they know the one and only truth about it all. I'm fine with that, but when they start preaching and proselytizing about the One True LotR I tend to walk quietly away.

For myself, I love the Story and I love to see other people tell it in their own ways, fan fiction and all. That's what keeps ME alive for new generations. I wish I had the skills to tell it myself.
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Post by MeikoElektra on Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:48 am

For myself, I love the Story and I love to see other people tell it in their own ways, fan fiction and all. - David

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Post by Norc on Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:47 am

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Post by David H on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:15 am

Eldo, where's that link to GB's story about what Bilbo really did when returning from the Lonely Mountain? Twisted Evil
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Post by Norc on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:17 pm

you knwo the scene that always gets me is the scene where Eomer sees his sister injured on the battelfield.
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Post by azriel on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:22 pm

Yeah, his face looks SO tortured, anyone would think Eowyn really IS his sister, he looks heart broken Sad

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Post by Mrs Figg on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:23 pm

yes thats a really powerful scene, he looks in agony. I have never seen any actor look so full of grief before.

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Post by Norc on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:27 pm

yes, you can totally see the fear and sadness and regret and the self-loathing and alll the emotions cus he thinks she is dead and he thought she was safe back home and he ... omg Sad yeah, it's truly great acting.
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Post by Mrs Figg on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:30 pm

and he does all that with one scream, 'mazing. Nod

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Post by Norc on Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:31 pm

yes.. it gives me a lump in my throat and teary eyes.
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