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Post by Norc on Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:51 pm

Yeah, no, i liked him, don't get me wrong, but he seemed nuts Very Happy "Vill i auan" as we say..

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:54 pm

Well regens always make him a bit quirky and intense for a bit  Very Happy 

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Post by Bluebottle on Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:12 am

It can be a bit strange.  Nod 

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:17 am

Very strange sometimes!-


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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:31 am

I do enjoy a good reaction video- and folks in hot countries always seem so, passionate, got to love 'em  Nod (especially when they happen to be cute too  Twisted Evil Also nicely shows Who's capacity to rip your heart out one second and fill you with wonder and joy the very next!)



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Post by Mrs Figg on Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:28 pm

it looked like amateur dramatics to me.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:45 pm

Ah well we Brits Figg are always suspicious of outward shows of emotions- other nationalities, less so it seems.

I like these two lasses drunken reviews too (they do hysterical in every sense Sherlock ones too), but lasses, bevvy and Who- its like someone has been watching my dreams!!




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Post by Bluebottle on Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:56 pm

Not sure which part you were refering to Figg, but I would say yes and no.

Doctor Who in the 70s hired high quality actors, but almost exclusively from a theatre background. So the scripts were accordingly played theatrically. Though for the most part very well in my opinion. That might not fit in with the expectations of modern television were this mock realism has become all important, but I'm sure the things will love today will have it's faults picked in 40 years as well.

However, from the little I have seen of 80s Who, I agree it might have moved too far in the amateur dramatic direction.

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:11 pm

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:14 pm

Blue I meant the OTT reactions of the girl in the video. If she reacts like that to a fictional tv character god knows what would happen if something bad happens to her in real life. she would be a liability in a real crisis. You would probably have to punch her to keep her quiet.

I also thought Capaldi was nothing like Tom Baker. Tom Baker was a fascinating actor to watch, Capaldi not so much. well not in that scene anyway, it rang false to me, and it certainly was not funny.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:26 pm

You would probably have to punch her to keep quiet.- Mrs Figg

Reminds me of Leela in Horror of Fang Rock dealing with a hysterical women who spends the episode screaming until Leela deals with her (I love Leela!)- ignore this vids caption, they got the name wrong  Mad 



I definitely saw some Bakerism in Capaldi- by a pure coincidence Ive making my way through the 4th Doctor episodes over xmas and it was particularly striking to me.

As to it not being funny- I smiled, more than I did at Tennants "New Teeth! That's weird. So where was I?" or 11's "legs! I've still got legs!"

"Kidneys! New kidneys! I don't like the colour" is for me funnier than either of those two were but very much in the same vein.  Shrugging

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Post by Bluebottle on Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:36 pm

Ah, sorry to go off on a bit of a tangent then Figg. Laughing 

Yeah, I agree. A bit staged perhaps.  Shrugging 

I agree on Tom Baker as well. Very Happy  Here's a video of him talking about the regeneration issue I stumbled over yesterday.



It will certainly be interesting to see how Cipaldi turns out.  Nod 

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Post by Bluebottle on Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:39 pm

You have Petty? Very Happy 

I agree on Horror of Fang Rock, definitely one of my favourites. Nod 

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:47 pm

Yeah I just watched Horror of Fan Rock the other day so it was fresh in my mind when Figg mentioned over emotional women needing a punch to shut them up (mm, I wonder if a man could have got away with saying that? Nagual happened to be here when I was looking up that clip and it led us to realise that NuWho has many examples of women slapping men but none we could think of where a man slaps a woman, or in fact anyone does- can anyone think of any examples we have missed?).

There are more dodgy or downright poor episodes in classic Who than in modern I would say on balance, but when its good its the equal of the best of modern, but the bad is a lot more bad.
Bakers Doctor however is ( a bit like Smith in my view) the constant- he is never poor, never less than totally committed, never less than believable and always watchable.

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Post by Bluebottle on Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:52 pm

What always interested me about HoFR is that it was pretty much a throwaway story from Terrance Dicks, which he still isn't all that proud of to this day. And to me it's one of the best classic Who stories.

Maybe it's because it epitomises all classic Doctor Who could be when everything worked.  Shrugging 

As for the Classic Who and New Who comparison I'm not sure I agree. You might have seen more of them than me however. The only post Tom Baker story I've seen is Silver Nemesis which was terrible. Terrible; terrible; terrible. I've found the Tom Baker stories and early Pertwee stories to be of very high quality however.

I'd say they are different television programs made in completely different ears to completely different standards and therefore can't really be objectively compared as far as quality is concerned.

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Post by Amarië on Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:08 pm

If I can bring back the Clara Is Like Totally So Nothing Like Rose discussion... She's a Rose clone. Through and through. And I am very dissapointed, now I only have the new doctor to look forward to. And no Amy of course. That's always good. Nod

Oh, and I thought the kindney thing was giggleworthy. Smile

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:29 pm

I dont think Clara will have romantic feelings for the Doctor. I expect they will do what Who did in classic ea when there was an older Doctor and young companion- ether get an older female companion too, or get a young leading man type for the companion to play off (not necessarily romantically- in classic Who never in fact) or both.

Regards Clara I actually am beginning to suspect with my recent watching of Baker era, that Moffat is trying to create a new Sarah Jane, there are some interesting (probably) coincidental things about them- if she stays beyond another year I can well see Clara being thought of as 12's companion, not 11's- that ll be Amy.
Sarah Jane was Pertwees last companion, but she is most remembered for her time with Bakers Doctor.
There are also some similarities in how they react to things and situations, how they fill the companion role.

But I think with Clara she will be viewed in the end on her character in relation to 12, not 11.

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Post by malickfan on Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:33 pm

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Post by Amarië on Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:42 pm

"I dont think Clara will have romantic feelings for the Doctor."

Uh... Did we see the same episode? Hopefully the Doc's change into Doctor Creepy Eyes can keep her at bay. Geez...

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:33 pm

I meant with the 12th Doctor, who is now the current and only Doctor!

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Post by azriel on Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:42 pm

Cracking poem, Malick  Nod 

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:19 pm

'The Time of the Doctor Christmas special has been named the most watched programme in BBC America's history.

The 800th episode in the show's run attracted 2.47 million viewers overnight, the highest ever audience achieved on the channel, beating The Day of the Doctor's record of 2.4 million viewers.'- Gallifrey Base

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:23 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Yeah I just watched Horror of Fan Rock the other day so it was fresh in my mind when Figg mentioned over emotional women needing a punch to shut them up (mm, I wonder if a man could have got away with saying that? Nagual happened to be here when I was looking up that clip and it led us to realise that NuWho has many examples of women slapping men but none we could think of where a man slaps a woman, or in fact anyone does- can anyone think of any examples we have missed?).

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No a man could not have got away with saying that. As a woman punching another woman is completely different as women have roughly the same upper body strength its a fair fight. Whereas a man hitting a woman is in a different League of Wrong. I shouldnt even have to explain this shit. Is it not fucking obvious??????
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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:28 pm

The point wasnt if it was right (although if whilst watching TV a woman is screaming hysterically and pointlessly are you saying a male viewer cannot even joke 'she needs a good slap?'), its just that in classic Who men and women get a good slap on about an equal basis.
Whereas the Doctor has had his face slapped in Nuwho, in all incarnations, fairly regularly, but I cant think of any women who have been.

There are mens groups out there for guys abused by their violent females partners who would strongly argue its the same thing.

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:48 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:The point wasnt if it was right (although if whilst watching TV a woman is screaming hysterically and pointlessly are you saying a male viewer cannot even joke 'she needs a good slap?'), NO I AM NOT its just that in classic Who men and women get a good slap on about an equal basis. TIMES CHANGE BUT SOME PEOPLES ATTITUDES DONT
Whereas the Doctor has had his face slapped in Nuwho, in all incarnations, fairly regularly, but I cant think of any women who have been. SO WHAT??

There are mens groups out there for guys abused by their violent females partners who would strongly argue its the same thing.
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