The General Tolkien News Thread

Page 27 of 27 Previous  1 ... 15 ... 25, 26, 27

Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by chris63 on Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:03 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{I like this guys Tolkien channel }}


Thanks for that Petty. Have subscribed.

Smart TV's are good. You get to watch all stuff on youtube on a big screen.

_________________
avatar
chris63
Adventurer

Posts : 7508
Join date : 2011-07-04
Location : Perth, Australia

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by malickfan on Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:33 pm

Stand alone Fall Of Gondolin book to be released in August:

https://www.bookdepository.com/Fall-Gondolin-John-Ronald-Reuel-Tolkien/9780008302757?ref=grid-view&qid=1522487749619&sr=1-1

No further details have been released as yet as far as I can tell I'm not as familiar with the First Age writings as others may be (looking at you Eldo, Elthir), but I was under the impression that the existing Fall Of Gondolin writings (including the early version in the BOLT, 'Of Tuor and The Fall Of Gondolin' and the published version in The Silmarillion) writings were even more divergent and incomplete than those published in the stand alone Beren and Luthien book last year?-the B+L book received some criticism for not publishing any new material (when we know there are still unpublished drafts of the story) and padding out the book with editorial commentary/essays (I didn't bother buying a copy myself, as the actual narrative writing had all been published elsewhere)

This untitled listing on AmazonUK has a different release date but is presumably this upcoming Fall of Gondolin book:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tolkien-Untitled-J-R/dp/0008302758/

Interesting to see that Christopher Tolkien is listed as editor (evidently he hasn't retired as Literary Executor just yet, despite implying B+L would be his last book), also worth noting that it is listed as 304 pages long (16 more than what Amazon lists for the Beren and Luthien book)...I find it a little hard to believe the extant Fall Of Gondolin material would stretch to 300 pages even with commentary, illustrations or essays, and it seems rather unlikely that Christopher Tolkien would 'novelise' the story...

Surprised (well, not entirely Beren and Luthien was a big seller) to see this release, and very curious as to what it may contain...

Thoughts?

Exciting development, or unnecessary cash in?

There was already an unofficial novelisation of the story published a few years back:

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/The_Tale_of_Gondolin

_________________
The Thorin: An Unexpected Rewrite December 2012 (I was on the money apparently)
The Tauriel: Desolation of Canon December 2013 (Accurate again!)
The Sod-it! : Battling my Indifference December 2014 (You know what they say, third time's the charm)

Well, that was worth the wait wasn't it  Suspect


I think what comes out of a pig's rear end is more akin to what Peejers has given us-Azriel 20/9/2014
avatar
malickfan
Adventurer

Posts : 4287
Join date : 2013-09-10
Age : 26
Location : The (Hamp)shire, England

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by Forest Shepherd on Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:12 pm

I smell cash-in... but let us see!

_________________
Boar is badger, named after wood,
Not after forest but trees.
Where did you play on a rainy day?
Where did I eat bread and cheese?
Search inside, stay indoors,
Look up and find the secret is yours.
Your castle your fort,
Or so you thought.
The way is in four trees.
The way is in Boar in Brockhall
Under ale, under bread, under cheese.

-Mossflower, by Brian Jacques.
avatar
Forest Shepherd
Trekkie in training

Posts : 3950
Join date : 2013-11-02
Age : 27
Location : Northern California

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by Eldorion on Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:17 pm

If this is actually a Fall of Gondolin book (pending official confirmation) I imagine it would be in the model of last year's B&L. I've never seen any sales figures so I don't how successful that was as bringing the story to more people, but if it did and if the same can be done for Gondolin that's cool. (Though sales figures alone don't tell you how many people actually finished it.) I'll probably do what I did last time and flip through a copy in store but if there's no new material I won't buy a copy. And if it's somehow a novelization/completion -- which I highly, highly doubt it is if Christopher Tolkien is involved in any way -- then I'd probably skip it on general principle. Razz But IDK. I'm a little too tired to feel excited about this, but that's obviously not the potential book's fault.
avatar
Eldorion
You're Gonna Carry That Weight

Posts : 23311
Join date : 2011-02-13
Age : 23
Location : Maryland, United States

https://purl.org/tolkien

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by halfwise on Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:06 am


_________________
Halfwise, son of Halfwit. Brother of Nitwit, son of Halfwit. Half brother of Figwit.
Then it gets complicated...
avatar
halfwise
Quintessence of Burrahobbitry

Posts : 14019
Join date : 2012-02-01
Location : rustic broom closet in farthing of Manhattan

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by malickfan on Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:06 am

Eldorion wrote:If this is actually a Fall of Gondolin book (pending official confirmation) I imagine it would be in the model of last year's B&L. I've never seen any sales figures so I don't how successful that was as bringing the story to more people, but if it did and if the same can be done for Gondolin that's cool. (Though sales figures alone don't tell you how many people actually finished it.) I'll probably do what I did last time and flip through a copy in store but if there's no new material I won't buy a copy. And if it's somehow a novelization/completion -- which I highly, highly doubt it is if Christopher Tolkien is involved in any way -- then I'd probably skip it on general principle. Razz But IDK. I'm a little too tired to feel excited about this, but that's obviously not the potential book's fault.

Yeah, I'm not particularly excited by the idea of a another volume along the lines of B+L (find it hard to believe that all the different gondolin text would come close to 304 pages, even with commentary or essays from the editor) but if this does happen, it will be great to get all three of the great tales to a wider audience.

Some websites are now listing Alan Lee as the illustrator, no surprises there.

Massive shame Tolkien abandoned his rewrite of the story so early, i.m.o it's one of his finest bits of writing.

_________________
The Thorin: An Unexpected Rewrite December 2012 (I was on the money apparently)
The Tauriel: Desolation of Canon December 2013 (Accurate again!)
The Sod-it! : Battling my Indifference December 2014 (You know what they say, third time's the charm)

Well, that was worth the wait wasn't it  Suspect


I think what comes out of a pig's rear end is more akin to what Peejers has given us-Azriel 20/9/2014
avatar
malickfan
Adventurer

Posts : 4287
Join date : 2013-09-10
Age : 26
Location : The (Hamp)shire, England

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by Eldorion on Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:24 am

Agreed, Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin is one of my favorites. I can't complain about something that leads to more people the stories of the First Age even if it's not something I'll personally spend money. And new Alan Lee illustrations are cool, to be sure. Smile
avatar
Eldorion
You're Gonna Carry That Weight

Posts : 23311
Join date : 2011-02-13
Age : 23
Location : Maryland, United States

https://purl.org/tolkien

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by malickfan on Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:03 pm

Eldorion wrote:Agreed, Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin is one of my favorites. I can't complain about something that leads to more people the stories of the First Age even if it's not something I'll personally spend money. And new Alan Lee illustrations are cool, to be sure. Smile

I'm surprised Tolkien's publishers haven't considered publishing a stand alone volume of Alan Lee's illustrations, he's clearly very popular with both the Tolkien Estate and a wider audience due to his work on the films...

_________________
The Thorin: An Unexpected Rewrite December 2012 (I was on the money apparently)
The Tauriel: Desolation of Canon December 2013 (Accurate again!)
The Sod-it! : Battling my Indifference December 2014 (You know what they say, third time's the charm)

Well, that was worth the wait wasn't it  Suspect


I think what comes out of a pig's rear end is more akin to what Peejers has given us-Azriel 20/9/2014
avatar
malickfan
Adventurer

Posts : 4287
Join date : 2013-09-10
Age : 26
Location : The (Hamp)shire, England

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by Eldorion on Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:52 pm

That would be pretty cool. Smile I remember flipping through the movie artbooks in my local library yeeears ago, but that's only a fraction of Lee (and Howe's) work, of course.
avatar
Eldorion
You're Gonna Carry That Weight

Posts : 23311
Join date : 2011-02-13
Age : 23
Location : Maryland, United States

https://purl.org/tolkien

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by Eldorion on Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:04 am

A Lord of the Rings theme park is rumored to be in the works at Universal Orlando, apparently.

https://www.tolkiensociety.org/2018/04/lord-of-the-rings-theme-park-rumoured-for-orlando/

Part of me reflexively considers this to be too crass, but I honestly love Harry Potter World so I feel a little torn.
avatar
Eldorion
You're Gonna Carry That Weight

Posts : 23311
Join date : 2011-02-13
Age : 23
Location : Maryland, United States

https://purl.org/tolkien

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by Forest Shepherd on Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:25 am

Blech.

_________________
Boar is badger, named after wood,
Not after forest but trees.
Where did you play on a rainy day?
Where did I eat bread and cheese?
Search inside, stay indoors,
Look up and find the secret is yours.
Your castle your fort,
Or so you thought.
The way is in four trees.
The way is in Boar in Brockhall
Under ale, under bread, under cheese.

-Mossflower, by Brian Jacques.
avatar
Forest Shepherd
Trekkie in training

Posts : 3950
Join date : 2013-11-02
Age : 27
Location : Northern California

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by chris63 on Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:59 am

Would love Peter Jackson to have a museum or park showing all the sets that were made. Would be great to go to NZ and
see Hobbiton and have the sets to visit close by. Bree, Rivendell, Bag End and the rest all look fantastic. Beorn's house would be a must.


_________________
avatar
chris63
Adventurer

Posts : 7508
Join date : 2011-07-04
Location : Perth, Australia

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by Eldorion on Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:14 pm

The Book Depository page for the supposed new book has been taken down, but the Amazon UK page has been updated with a description. However, the description reads pretty weird, the book is still not listed on HarperCollins' website. and TBH at this point I'm inclined to think the whole thing is a hoax.

https://www.tolkien.co.uk/product-category/middle-earth-beyond/
avatar
Eldorion
You're Gonna Carry That Weight

Posts : 23311
Join date : 2011-02-13
Age : 23
Location : Maryland, United States

https://purl.org/tolkien

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by Eldorion on Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:16 pm

Evidently I was wrong:

https://www.harpercollins.co.uk/9780008302771/the-fall-of-gondolin/

Edit: made a new thread. Man, that product description is terrible, though.

http://www.hobbitmovieforum.com/t1384-the-fall-of-gondolin-coming-august-2018
avatar
Eldorion
You're Gonna Carry That Weight

Posts : 23311
Join date : 2011-02-13
Age : 23
Location : Maryland, United States

https://purl.org/tolkien

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by malickfan on Tue May 08, 2018 9:29 pm

This is really more Peter Jackson related news than strictly Tolkien, but this new book sounds quite interesting (pretty cheap too, might get a copy):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anything-You-Can-Imagine-Middle-earth/dp/0008192472

_________________
The Thorin: An Unexpected Rewrite December 2012 (I was on the money apparently)
The Tauriel: Desolation of Canon December 2013 (Accurate again!)
The Sod-it! : Battling my Indifference December 2014 (You know what they say, third time's the charm)

Well, that was worth the wait wasn't it  Suspect


I think what comes out of a pig's rear end is more akin to what Peejers has given us-Azriel 20/9/2014
avatar
malickfan
Adventurer

Posts : 4287
Join date : 2013-09-10
Age : 26
Location : The (Hamp)shire, England

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by halfwise on Tue May 08, 2018 9:55 pm

Eldorion wrote:The Book Depository page for the supposed new book has been taken down, but the Amazon UK page has been updated with a description. However, the description reads pretty weird, the book is still not listed on HarperCollins' website. and TBH at this point I'm inclined to think the whole thing is a hoax.

https://www.tolkien.co.uk/product-category/middle-earth-beyond/


Who's Finn and Hengest?

_________________
Halfwise, son of Halfwit. Brother of Nitwit, son of Halfwit. Half brother of Figwit.
Then it gets complicated...
avatar
halfwise
Quintessence of Burrahobbitry

Posts : 14019
Join date : 2012-02-01
Location : rustic broom closet in farthing of Manhattan

Back to top Go down

Re: The General Tolkien News Thread

Post by malickfan on Tue May 08, 2018 9:59 pm

halfwise wrote:
Eldorion wrote:The Book Depository page for the supposed new book has been taken down, but the Amazon UK page has been updated with a description. However, the description reads pretty weird, the book is still not listed on HarperCollins' website. and TBH at this point I'm inclined to think the whole thing is a hoax.

https://www.tolkien.co.uk/product-category/middle-earth-beyond/


Who's Finn and Hengest?

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Finn_and_Hengest

(I think I have a copy of that lying around somewhere...i did read it a number of years ago but found it rather hard going and perplexing to my non-academic mind...)

_________________
The Thorin: An Unexpected Rewrite December 2012 (I was on the money apparently)
The Tauriel: Desolation of Canon December 2013 (Accurate again!)
The Sod-it! : Battling my Indifference December 2014 (You know what they say, third time's the charm)

Well, that was worth the wait wasn't it  Suspect


I think what comes out of a pig's rear end is more akin to what Peejers has given us-Azriel 20/9/2014
avatar
malickfan
Adventurer

Posts : 4287
Join date : 2013-09-10
Age : 26
Location : The (Hamp)shire, England

Back to top Go down

Page 27 of 27 Previous  1 ... 15 ... 25, 26, 27

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum