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Post by Mrs Figg on Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:11 pm

kilters have no taste, they think Mel Gibson Painted blue is sexy.

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Post by Lancebloke on Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:33 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:I dont actually fancy Viggo though. dunno why not.  scratch I prefer Elrond.  Embarassed

And here was me thinking all of those Viggo lookalike comments were flattering.  Mad 
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Post by Eldorion on Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:41 pm

Well I fancy Viggo. Handbag 
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Re: FREEDOM!!!! [3]

Post by Mrs Figg on Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:59 pm

Lancebloke wrote:
Mrs Figg wrote:I dont actually fancy Viggo though. dunno why not.  scratch I prefer Elrond.  Embarassed

And here was me thinking all of those Viggo lookalike comments were flattering.  Mad 

Viggo is cool though.  Kissing 
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Re: FREEDOM!!!! [3]

Post by azriel on Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:13 pm

Viggo looks capable

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Re: FREEDOM!!!! [3]

Post by halfwise on Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:32 pm

Dare I ask of what?

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Re: FREEDOM!!!! [3]

Post by azriel on Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:33 pm

Anything you like baby  Very Happy

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Re: FREEDOM!!!! [3]

Post by Mrs Figg on Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:19 pm

I think we have capably Norced this thread.  :brows:
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Post by halfwise on Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:24 pm

She would be so proud.  Twisted Evil 

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Re: FREEDOM!!!! [3]

Post by David H on Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:30 pm

What's she doing these days, anyway? I seem to be seeing one tumblr repost a day from her, and no sweary Fjordlandian commentary at all! Shocked 

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Re: FREEDOM!!!! [3]

Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:15 pm

This isnt norcing its outright hijacking, and I wont be having it!  Evil or Very Mad 

So to get back on topic with the mess the CBI have made of things, Strathclyde University has joined the list of Uni's resigning from it, and now also the Law Society of Scotland.
This is looking more and more like a huge error of judgement and another own goal by the No campaign.

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Re: FREEDOM!!!! [3]

Post by azriel on Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:49 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:I think we have capably Norced this thread.  :brows:

I think so !  Very Happy


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Re: FREEDOM!!!! [3]

Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:45 pm

Evil or Very Mad

Two more have resigned - Highlands and Islands Enterprise and Skills Development Scotland.
I wonder how long this has to go on for before the CBI admits it didn't actually consult its members at all about doing this and may have made a small error in judgement?

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Post by Eldorion on Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:07 pm

I did a bit of reading about this myself too and it all sounds like a mind-boggling display of arrogance on whoever made the decision to endorse one side. It's nice to see some pushback to such blatantly undemocratic meddling in the political process.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:43 pm

Its just such an obvious bad decision. I dont know what else they expected to happen there was no way government institutions and Universities could remain as members, they made it impossible for them.
And as the cbi are supposed to be a business organisation they surely could see that the major industries here couldn't come out on one side or the other when they will need the good will of customers no matter the outcome (not to mention not wanting to burn bridges with any future Scottish government or Westminster one depending on outcome).

If this has purely been done as a result of pressure from the Tories then its a terrible miscalculation and they must be desperate for funds indeed if they considered this a worthwhile risk for £150,000 in donations to their campaign.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:19 am

Rather typically, but still disappointingly, the flagship political show of the day on the BBC here, Newsnight Scotland devoted half its run time to Gordon Browns Better Together speech and made exactly ZERO reference to the mass exodus from the CBI.
They even somehow failed to mention it when doing the 'tomorrows front pages' section at the end where at least three of the papers carried the story on their front page. That takes actual effort to avoid the subject.
BBC, when its come down to the pinch for your political impartiality, you have sadly failed and shattered a life times faith in your reporting Mad 

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:37 am

This is class-

On the left is the Daily Express- RUK edition. On the right is Daily Express Scottish edition.



Do they think this sort of thing doesn't get spread all over social media here instantly?

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Post by Eldorion on Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:45 am

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:50 am

Unbelievable isnt it?  Mad 

Also note Gordon Browns rather mad argument, highlighted in the pro-Union Express as a reason to vote NO- that Scotlands pension bill would be greater than its oil and gas revenue.

This is mad. By that reckoning the UK, with a much larger population has a pension bill many times the oil and gas revenue.
You dont pay for pensions out of just oil ad gas it comes out of all taxation.
And when you look at that over past five years Scotland has contributed to the UK pension pot 9.5% of taxation, and got back to spend 8.3%
So we would in fact have been better just keeping what we raised here and not sending it to the Treasury in the first place.

But for Brown , a former Chancellor to make this the heart of his argument is bizarre, and SNP representatives have been gleefully shooting it down with ease on news programs all evening.

There is a genuine pension issue facing all industrialised countries from an ageing population, but this nonsense has nothing to do with addressing that issue and Browns claims are just another thing on the huge list of instant calamities which will befall Scotland if we vote YES. So much for a change in tone to the positive case for being part of the UK.

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Re: FREEDOM!!!! [3]

Post by Mrs Figg on Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:55 pm

whats shocking about A Strictly Come Dancing Susanna being prepared for anything? I have watched Game of Thrones  Shrugging nothing shocks me now.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:49 pm

The CBI thing rumbles on with more companies and institutions leaving it, but there is one member who has yet to comment or resign, and thats the BBC.
Among the first to go was Scotland's other main broadcaster, STV, who stated they had to maintain impartial and could not do so if they remained members of a body officially part of the NO campaign.

So why hasn't the BBC resigned? Or are they declaring their colours finally in the open?

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Post by Bluebottle on Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:15 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:This is class-

On the left is the Daily Express- RUK edition. On the right is Daily Express Scottish edition.



Do they think this sort of thing doesn't get spread all over social media here instantly?

Great.  Laughing 

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:12 pm

The BBC have finally reacted, sort of.

Rather than resign from the CBI like everyone else, they have 'suspended their membership' for the duration of the referendum debate and vote. But presumably still technically remain members of the CBI  Suspect 

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Post by David H on Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:05 pm

Do suspended members still pay dues?

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:08 pm

So far the CBI line for everyone who has resigned is that money is not paid back- so basically they keep it.

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