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Post by halfwise on Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:28 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:where is Nymeria in the books?

It was never clear where Nymeria was all the time Arya was wandering through Westeros. We do get dreams when she's in Essos.

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Post by Bluebottle on Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:50 pm

Nymeria is the little sister in the quote above. Smile

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Post by Lancebloke on Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:55 am

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Mrs Figg wrote:where is Nymeria in the books?

It was never clear where Nymeria was all the time Arya was wandering through Westeros.  We do get dreams when she's in Essos.

There is also a lot more focus on the river lands in which reports of prowling packs of Wolves led by a monstrous female are given... we presume it to be Nymeria because of the wolf dreams.
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Post by Bluebottle on Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:59 pm

Sofa


(Um.. that might be considered a bit spoilery for last weeks episode, I guess..)

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Post by bungobaggins on Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:57 pm

I thought it was a good episode. Something happened! Razz
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Re: Game of Thrones -- TV ONLY

Post by Mrs Figg on Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:28 pm

I will miss two episodes but I have got them recorded for later. Razz

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Re: Game of Thrones -- TV ONLY

Post by Bluebottle on Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:27 pm

bungobaggins wrote:I thought it was a good episode. Something happened! Razz

Did it? scratch Like I know the battle was all very epic, glitzy and high level production wise, but I'm not sure it added much to progressing the story. Shrugging

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Post by Bluebottle on Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:29 pm

I'll just post this here, as I thought it rather silly.






“She was a guy originally, and then somewhere in the process we thought it might be cool if she were a mother, and show her sending off her own kids to make that moment with the corpse children really resonate emotionally,” Sapochnik explained.

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Post by Bluebottle on Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:47 pm

Game of Thrones.. the musical..? Shocked


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Re: Game of Thrones -- TV ONLY

Post by halfwise on Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:40 pm

Laughing

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Re: Game of Thrones -- TV ONLY

Post by bungobaggins on Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:36 am

Bluebottle wrote:
bungobaggins wrote:I thought it was a good episode. Something happened! Razz

Did it? scratch Like I know the battle was all very epic, glitzy and high level production wise, but I'm not sure it added much to progressing the story. Shrugging

That is true, but TV viewers found out that Valyrian steel can kill the walkers. Things are happening in the far north. Everything south of the wall is pretty boring though. The stuff with Tyrion and Dany was good in my opinion.
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Post by Bluebottle on Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:35 am

That's a book spoiler too, actually. Although it was heavily hinted at. Actually it brings me to one of my major gripes of the episode. What are we told about fighting the Others (white walkers) and the whights? Fire deters them. But no, we'll have one walk through a burning building like it's nothing.. And of course the Wildlings who are the only humans to come into direct contact with the Others and the whights, and would know how to fight them, attacks them not with fire, but with conventional weapons, normal steel, or more primitive weapons, and.. it kind of works. So, that really undermined the impact of the battle for me. They are meant to be this unstoppable force. Only fire can deter them. "Oh, no.. I'll just step on it's head." :facepalm: If presenting them on screen in fight scenes means you have to leave the previously established logic to make it look good, then perhaps that's a reason you shouldn't have that battle on screen.

It was nice to see Tyrion and Dany together, leaving aseide the fact that their conversation went..

"You're the son of the man who killed my father, why shouldn't I have you killed?"
"You have to convince me you're worthy of my service first."
"Oh, well, then you should become my closest advisor."

And the advice he gave her was simply.. bad.

"The great houses won't support you. Not the Starks, not the Lannistes (despite me being here), maybe the Tyrells, but they are not enough.."

Forgetting the Arryns who the show established have no love for the Lannisters and have not depleted their resources or military might by war. Forgetting the Martells, who had Oberyn screaming to a crowd of people about who killed Dany's sister in law and nice and nephew during hte trial by combat last season..

Also, this..

Bluebottle wrote:I'll just post this here, as I thought it rather silly.






“She was a guy originally, and then somewhere in the process we thought it might be cool if she were a mother, and show her sending off her own kids to make that moment with the corpse children really resonate emotionally,” Sapochnik explained.

Ah, I guess this is the reason I normally keep my opinions out of this thread. Razz Because If you guys are enjoying it.. Well, I'm nothing but happy for you. Smile


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Re: Game of Thrones -- TV ONLY

Post by Bluebottle on Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:41 am

Bluebottle wrote:Sofa


(Um.. that might be considered a bit spoilery for last weeks episode, I guess..)

Also, everyone needs to see this. It's... perfect. Nod

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Re: Game of Thrones -- TV ONLY

Post by Bluebottle on Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:53 am



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Re: Game of Thrones -- TV ONLY

Post by Mrs Figg on Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:36 pm

Bugger I have to wait until next week before I can watch ep 8. bounce No

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Re: Game of Thrones -- TV ONLY

Post by Norc on Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:58 pm

oh i hated that the woman died Mad i liked her so much. but correct me if i am wrong, those kids... weren't they her kids and that's why she froze? because she took her kids of the boat when she was doubting whether or not Jon Snow would go and make the gates open? it makes more sense that way..
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Post by Bluebottle on Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:01 pm

Nope.. they were just random whight kids..

“She was a guy originally, and then somewhere in the process we thought it might be cool if she were a mother, and show her sending off her own kids to make that moment with the corpse children really resonate emotionally,” Sapochnik explained.



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Post by Bluebottle on Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:22 pm

It's good to hold onto those headcanons though. Your idea makes more sense. Smile

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Re: Game of Thrones -- TV ONLY

Post by halfwise on Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:20 am


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Re: Game of Thrones -- TV ONLY

Post by Tinuviel on Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:24 am

Can someone explain to me how exactly the High Sparrow came into power? I know Cersei kind of gave him an in so she could mess with the Tyrells, but their sudden amount of power that they have (so much so as to imprison Cersei) makes no sense to me.

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:37 am

Oh, they've always had power, it's just a matter of whether they choose to exercise it or have a leader who's strong enough to do so. It's not unlike the power the religious right has over the US Republican party.

A better example would be the Catholic church and the kingdoms of Europe. Constantly shifting struggle, but theoretically the Pope could always excommunicate a King, effectively ending his rule. Henry VIII sidestepped this by creating his own church with himself as head, and we see similar mechinations in Westeros. Cersei wasn't paying proper attention and paid the price.

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Post by Tinuviel on Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:40 am

She gave them the power to do all this though, right? Or in the books have they been there all along?

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:41 am

They've been there all along. She didn't give them anything...except the rope to hang herself with.

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