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Post by bungobaggins on Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:16 pm

Tolkien Book to Jackson Script: The Medium and the Message

In this talk, Tom Shippey, the world’s foremost Tolkien scholar, charts the creative reshaping of Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings into Peter Jackson’s award-winning trilogy of films. Professor Shippey was the literary consultant to Jackson and the actors as they worked on the films.

http://www.swarthmore.edu/news-events/tolkien-book-to-jackson-script-medium-and-message

This was linked over on torn (I couldn't find a date for the lecture, though).

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Post by azriel on Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:43 pm

I enjoyed listening to that Bungo,  Smile  Ive saved it for later on also.

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:52 pm

Listening to it. Extremely entertaining.

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Post by bungobaggins on Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:30 pm

Yeah it's a good lecture, even if I had heard some of these things from the LOTR EE special features. I would love to know what Shippey thinks of the hobbit movies.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:36 pm

Giving it a listen now.

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:10 pm

It's the only explanation I've heard for why Denethor was so screwed up.  Shippey doesn't seem to think much of this reason, but I've never heard a better one.

(Except for cop-out duffers like GB who seem to think Denethor was exactly how portrayed in the book.  Mad  )

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:31 pm

The only place I disagree with him (apart from his ridiculous underestimation of the importance of the colour and type of grass in the Shire  Mad ) is in questing if the medium of film meant it would not work without the continual inter-cutting. That you have the sacrifice the sense of not knowing what's going on.
I much prefer, and have had positive feedback for, sticking to the book format of staying with each strand in the purist edits and not inter cutting them.
And it does change the entire feel of those two films to something much more Tolkien I feel, as it restores the uncertainty to the characters and the viewer, as well as giving th viewer more time to become emotionally involved with the characters.

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Post by azriel on Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:53 pm

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Been eaten by an alligator.
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"You mean" he said,"a crocodile"
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Post by David H on Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:54 pm

I love Ogden Nash! Very Happy

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Post by azriel on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:15 pm

He mentions clams in "seaside Serenade", about as close to those slippery little fokkers as your gonna get  Laughing 
I like Ogden Nash to !  Smile

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:36 pm

I liked that a lot. Its very fair and balanced.

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:48 pm

David H wrote:
I love Ogden Nash!
                     
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{{{shame he never wrote a geoduck poem.}}}

"I've never et a geoduck,
I don't know how to cook'em
But if I find I'm down on luck
I'd rather cook than fook'em."

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Post by bungobaggins on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:53 pm

Ogden Nash. Thumbs Up

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Post by David H on Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:56 pm

cheers brilliant!  cheers 
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Post by azriel on Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:17 pm

very good Halfy !

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:49 pm

"I've never et a geoduck,
I don't know how to cook'em
But if I find I'm down on luck
I'd rather cook than fook'em."

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Laughing Brilliant Halfy.

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Post by halfwise on Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:07 am

Thanks guys.  Embarassed  Though after writing it I discovered my model was Gillet Burgess rather than Ogden Nash. Damn near indistinguishable, those two.

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Post by Orwell on Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:33 pm

Laughing 

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