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Post by azriel on Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:12 am

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Post by halfwise on Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:03 pm

So here's a question: why come Tolkien felt content to cram nearly the whole of the Silmarillion, a much vastier story expanse than the LotR, into Beriliand, yet when writing LotR felt compelled to expand by a linear scale of 5 to 10, with of course 30 to 100 times the area? Did it just take him that long to realize he had scrounched everything into an area the size of Britain and perhaps he should expand to west/east European scales?

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:25 pm

What do you mean though, because the Silmarillion's setting includes such far-flung places as the bay of Cuivienen where the elves awoke, to Forochel, to Numenor, to Aman. Vasty stretches in-between indeed.

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Post by halfwise on Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:49 pm

That elf awakening story doesn't interact much with lands they pass through, and is a miniscule part of the whole story. Something about the misty mountains and then suddenly they're on the shores of the sea. Forochel is all of a couple of paragraphs. Numenor didn't get added until LotR. Aman doesn't count.

90% of the stories are all in this area about the size of Mordor. Then you get to stuff written during the Hobbit and after LotR and the territory explodes.

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