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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:23 am

{{Because almost none of it is actually Scottish- its just English right wing media and they stick the word 'Scottish' in the title. And on the odd occasion its is produced in Scotland turns out Murdoch owns them or similar! }}

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Post by Bluebottle on Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:15 am

Reminds me of the US, Trump pushing working class voters before him to raise their taxes and give billionaires taz cuts, but, hey, a tax vut is a tax cut and has to be positive, right? Rolling Eyes

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Post by Bluebottle on Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:16 am

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"In his masterpiece 1984, George Orwell describes the workings of a dystopian state that tries to control how its citizens think. One of the dictatorship’s favourite tools is what is known as Newspeak, which consists of calling things the exact opposite of what they really are. For example, the state speaks of the "Ministry of Truth" to refer to the ministry that censors and manipulates information, of the "Ministry of Peace" to speak of the war department, the "Ministry of Love" to allude to those engaged in torture and the "Ministry of Abundance" to refer to those who are charged with managing shortages.

Orwell would find the use of Newspeak in Spain utterly fascinating. With more than 900 individuals charged with corruption and people "accidentally" dying days before having to give evidence in court, Spain’s Partido Popular is undoubtedly the most corrupt political party in Europe. Nevertheless, on a daily basis day we see its leaders deliver sermons about the need for "everyone to comply with the law".

The unionists label the pro-independence parties supremacists, fascists and Nazis, even though it is at unionist demonstrations that the swastikas inevitably appear and where Nazi or Francoist salutes can be observed. And it is their leaders (such as MEP Javier Nart) who openly speak of sterilizing (that’s right, sterilizing!) women with a high probability of giving birth to children with disabilities. That is about as Nazi as one can get.

They accuse pro-independence activists of violence, while they imprison their leaders without trial for crimes of "rebellion" and "sedition", two concepts that require acts of violence which no one has ever witnessed. What's more, it is their police who beat elderly ladies outside polling stations, they are the ones who start the campaign with a rallying cry which is an incitement to violence, "Let ‘em have it!", and they are the ones whose demonstrations always end in a punch up.

They say that Catalonia is plagued by social problems because our Parliament wastes time arguing about independence instead of passing laws that "truly interest the people". But the truth is that a total of 26 laws of a social nature have been suspended or overturned by the Constitutional Court at the request of the Spanish government."

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Post by Bluebottle on Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:40 am

Was watching this:

Very scottish centric angle, if you look at the ancestry of the current Scottish population, I am sure you'll find plenty roman, and no 100% caldonian heritage, but interesting.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:10 am

Reminds me of the US, Trump pushing working class voters before him to raise their taxes and give billionaires taz cuts- Blue

{{Its the opposite of what Trumps is doing- the SNP are asking upper middle earners and the rich to pay a little more (about 30% of the working population) and cutting taxes slightly for everyone else, which is about 70% of the work force in order to better fund public services for all. It makes it the most progressive tax system in the UK }}}

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Post by Bluebottle on Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:11 am

Yeah, ofc, but the medias reaction is simmilar to the logic of the R's and Trump Wink

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Post by Bluebottle on Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:34 am

Today was the last tv-debate in the Catalan election campaign. Appearing were number one on the electoral list of Ciduadanos, number one on the elctoral list of PSC and number one of the electoral list of PP. (Unionist) Appearing for the independentist were number five on the electoral list for Together for Catalunya, and number five on the list of ERC, both had recently spent time in prison, and number three of CUP (independentist). And number one of Catxpot, which are pro-referendum.

Where were the leaders of the independence parties? Number one of Together for Catalunya, the President, is in exile in Belgium, there was an euroorder for his extradition, but the Spanish judge retired it when it became clear that the Belgian judge wouldn't accept the more medieval crimes he was accused of in the case of extradition. The leader of the ist of ERC is in preventive prison, despite an election campaign going on.

Free and fair elections!

#marcaespana as they say Rolling Eyes

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Post by Bluebottle on Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:52 am

The Spanish electoral commission, consisting mostly of the national unionist parties, demand the retiral of a placard marked "Democracy" because it is apparently partidist.

I just.. can't.. lol! slap laugh :clap:

https://twitter.com/eduardvoltas/status/943207892697665542

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Post by halfwise on Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:36 pm

Wish my spanish was better.  but still....that's rich!

Sort of like "science-based" is now political over here. :facepalm:

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Post by Bluebottle on Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:10 am

Strong message, in the most anomolus elections in Europe I have ever heard of. List leaders in prison or exile, regional bodies unconstitutionally dismissed and dissolved, a Spanish and Catalan (don't forget) media that has hammered the unionist point of view, a biased electoral junta siding completely with one side, intervention in the media channels that have been pluralistic like tv3, election spending completely out of control on the unionist side, illegal email canvassing, interference with the foreign vote, which is largely pro-independence, meaning thousands of people did not get to vote for the pro-independence parties. In the end democracy won in the worst circumstances imaginable.

https://www.elnacional.cat/en/news/catalan-election-independence-parties-humiliate-rajoy_223584_102.html

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Post by Bluebottle on Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:13 pm

At the beginning of time , God was discussing the creation with the Angel Gabriel. Leaning back in this Golden throne he told him his plans for Scotland.
- Gabriel – said God – I’m going to give Scotland towering mountains and magnificents glens resplendent with purple heather. Red deer will roam the coutryside, Golden eagles will circle in the skies, salmon will leap in the Crystal clear rivers and lochs, and the surrounding seas will teen of fish. Agriculture will flourish and ther will be a glorious coming togetherof wàter with barley to be know as wisky. Gold oil and gas , all will be there. The scots will be intel·ligent, innovative, industrious and .........
- Wait a minute – interrupted Gabriel – Are you not being just a wee bit too generous to these scots?.
But the Almigthy replied.

- Not really , I havent told you yet who their neighbours are going to be.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:55 am

{{{ Laughing }}}

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Post by Bluebottle on Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:06 pm

“There is zero credible evidence to suggest leaving the single market will bring any benefit to our economy. Indeed, as our analysis will show – the harder the Brexit, the worse will be the outcome,” Sturgeon said.

“(Those defending Brexit) have completely failed to explain how their approach could even remotely come close to replacing the enormous lost trade and investment,” Sturgeon said.

“That means there is now a golden opportunity for those moderate voices who are making the case for Scotland and the UK to remain in the single market.”
http://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/news/sturgeon-sees-golden-chance-to-argue-for-uk-to-remain-in-single-market/

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:17 am

{{Here's anohter fine example of Unionist press standards. Last week the right wing unionist papers, led by the Daily Mail ran a slew of stories attacking Nicola Sturgeon personally for 'decreeing' that the Union flag not be flown at Royal celebrations.
Their headline was - 'Sturgeon Bans Union Flag For Queens Birthday' and went on to vilify and attack Sturgeon personally, other unionist papers like the Telegraph soon joined in - 'Sturgeon Hauls Down Union Flag' screamed their front page.

Only problem being it was of course complete nonsense.
And this buried in the 'corrections' sections of today's Daily Mail confirming it-

"We are happy to clarify that the decision to change the policy on flag flying was taken and implemented by former First Minister Alex Salmond in 2010.
The Protocol and Honours Team updated operational guidance in December 2017.
We accept that the policy did not change under Nicola Sturgeon and that she had no involvement in the Protocol and Honours Team updating the operational guidance on flag flying for 2018.
We apologise to Ms Sturgeon for the contrary impression given."

And for the record the policy implemented by Salmond was done in consultation with the Queen herself and the Royal Household and was simply to change the flying of the Union flag on certain occasions for the flying of the Royal Scottish standard of the Lion Rampant. Which by protocol is the correct one. }}}

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:04 am

{{ A classic Tory attempt at a Brexit stitch up and power grab.
The Scottish Parliament has voted overwhelmingly time and time again to reject the current Brexit bill as it stands because things like agriculture and fisheries will go to Westminster post Brexit, not to the devolved Parliament as stated in the legislation for devolution which says it belongs in Scotland if we leave the EU.

Now this was all supposedly addressed a while back when the Tories accepted a bunch of amendments to the bill to sort the issue out- except they never got round to them- 'Amendments promised when the bill was before MPs in the House of Commons did not transpire'- BBC news.

So now the amendments have to be voted on in the House of Lords instead- where the SNP have no members- so the entire matter of the governance of Scotland is going to be decided by English Lords (I find it incredible that's a sentence I still have to write in 2018).

And for anyone thinking its just the SNP trying to cause trouble Westminster's own committee looking into this say in their report- 'that the bill as it stands has "fundamental flaws".
"The committee find that the bill risks undermining the legal certainty it seeks to provide, gives overly-broad powers to ministers, and has significant consequences for the relationship between the UK government and the devolved administrations."- BBC

As things are even the Scottish Tories are saying they cant vote for the Brexit Bill as it stands on devolved issues. whilst voting against it wont stop the Bill it does cause serious constitutional issues if that's what happens- and as it is that is exactly what is going to happen unless the government concedes the points. }}}

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Post by Bluebottle on Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:49 am

Perhaps even the tories will finally see the madness in running Scotland from Westminister Shrugging Razz

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:15 am

{{We shall find out later today as the Lords debate it. }}}

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Post by Mrs Figg on Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:47 pm

lets hope the Lords nuke it.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:17 pm

{{Debate is underway in the Lords right now- and have to hand it to them the House is packed and there have been over 200 requests to speak in the debate- makes a change from the usually near empty Commons. }}

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:24 pm

{{So quick background- the government did a bunch of analysis papers on the effects of Brexit on the different regions of the UK under various Brexit outcomes, they let this slip by accident a while back so MP's demanded their release but only got acknowledgement of their existence, then the government said they did not in fact exist in any tangible form but were more some sort of thought exercise and so nothing to publish, and now they have been forced to show them to MP's because the overall conclusions reached in them leaked to the press and they have to say "Oh you meant those analysis papers!"
The papers conclude that under every Brexit scenario examined Britain loses, region by region- some worse than others- London will take a 3% hit, but parts of the north of England will take 12% and Scotland, according to the leaks, 9% worse off.
So finally the government are having to let MPS's at Holyrood see the papers (but not the public, as they are still somehow classed as secret in some fashion!) well sort of letting them see them....


'Brexit minister Robin Walker wrote to MSPs saying that analysis documents would be available in a "confidential reading room" at the Scotland Office.
A letter from Mr Walker to Holyrood's presiding officer said the reading room at the Scotland Office would be available between 10:00 and 13:00, and 14:00 and 17:00 on Thursday and Friday.

However, MSPs pointed out that the Thursday hours clashed with committees and main chamber sitting hours, including first minister's questions, while members have responsibilities in their constituencies on Fridays.
Mr Walker also stressed that MSPs would have to book a viewing slot in advance, and said "there will be at least one UK government official in the reading room at all times".'- BBC

As if that was not bad enough the first day they were available there were only the odd numbered pages there until the last half hour!

'Spent a thrilling hour today reading every second page of the UK Govt's Brexit impact paper. Not because I'm a bit odd, because that's literally all they had to show MSPs until the last half hour of the day.'- Ross Greer MSP

Do you think the government might be trying to make it as difficult as possible to read the analysis?! }}}

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Post by Bluebottle on Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:38 am

Stand up for national minorities and minority languages in europe by signing this:

http://www.minority-safepack.eu/main/index

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:23 am

{{Documentary on BBC news bias and the tactics used in the Independence referendum }}


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Post by Bluebottle on Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:06 pm

After their comrade Corbyn stunt, my faith in the BBC is seriously wounded.

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