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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:10 pm

{{Its just more lies we've been fed Figg- before the vote in Holyrood we were told by the UK government was unnecessary, all this would be fully debated, after the vote happened anyway and went against the UK government they refused to discuss it or the issues, saying the proper time and place was in the Commons when the bill was up for debate. For months we've been told this- then when the debate comes round they shove the devolved amendments to the end of the running order, then filibuster the small inadequate to start with fifteen minutes of debate and not one Scottish elected MP gets to speak in this so called debate- its not a debate if the only person who gets to speak is the government minister!!! Its not just deliberately ignoring Scotland- that's more or less normal- its deliberately silencing Scotland this time and that's worse.
This cant go on. }}}


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Post by Mrs Figg on Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:34 pm

I have never seen this kind of contempt for democracy before, Bercow in particular was quite obnoxious. it doesn't bode well.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:03 pm

{{{ It is arrogant beyond belief- even for the Tories.
And worth noting, despite the press painting this as as a solely SNP thing it is not- the vote in the Scottish Parliament rejecting the Brexit Bill was something like 90-30, everyone bar Tories pretty much. Its not about the SNP, they just represent the Scottish Parliament as its elected leaders, its about Westminster tearing up the devolution act and then ignoring the democratic will of the vote in the Scottish Parliament and then silencing any debate over their actions in the Commons and implementing the bill regardless. It can't stand. }}}

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Post by David H on Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:11 pm

That's appalling! :facepalm:
I understand violent differences of opinion on these issues. That's exactly what debates are for. But to go to such lengths to stifle debate... I don't know how to interpret that except as an admission that they know they don't have a valid argument to make!

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Post by Mrs Figg on Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:01 pm

yep things are deteriorating rapidly. I also noticed a weird thing in PMQs, May turns to Jacob Rees-Handmaids Tale, and its as if she is asking permission, he nods sagely and its as if its really he who is in control. weeeeeeeirrd! No

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Post by Mrs Figg on Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:32 pm

Brexit Dividend? Laughing

do they think we are idiots or what. Rolling Eyes

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