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Post by Forest Shepherd on Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:49 am

azriel wrote:I just like Karl Urban ! Very Happy

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Post by bungobaggins on Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:43 am

Theoden, Eowyn, and Eomer were all great. Or, at least, they weren't in the movies long enough for the writers to completely destroy them.

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Post by azriel on Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:04 pm

True that..

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Post by malickfan on Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:06 pm

bungobaggins wrote:Theoden, Eowyn, and Eomer were all great. Or, at least, they weren't in the movies long enough for the writers to completely destroy them.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I'm confused Laughing scratch

Bernard Hill was one of my favourite casting choices in the trilogy, Karl Urban is always fun to watch and Eowyn I never really found that interesting as a character

Denethor on the other hand was barely in the films, and was destroyed as a character within minutes i.m.o

I do like Boromir more in the films, not necessarily because of the way the character is written, Sean Bean is just fantastic in his relatively small amount of screentime

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Post by halfwise on Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:41 pm

Eowyn's best scene in the movie was playing with the sword in Edoras. It was an insertion but a damn good one.

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Post by azriel on Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:50 pm

I agree with the Sean Bean mention. For the time we saw him he played his character well ( in whatever form he character was meant to be ) I don't feel I will ever see a more touching death scene as the one Sean did. That moment redeemed Boromir & earned respect from Aragorn. I especially liked that Aragorn told Boromir what he wanted to hear, forgiveness. He told Boromir that he would not let our people fail Crying or Very sad


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Post by chris63 on Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:11 am

Funny how Boromir became a baddy when he tried to take the ring, but i still shed a tear at his death scene. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

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Post by halfwise on Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:34 pm

Redemption was the whole point of the scene, both in film and books.

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Post by malickfan on Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:19 pm

azriel wrote:I agree with the Sean Bean mention. For the time we saw him he played his character well ( in whatever form he character was meant to be ) I don't feel I will ever see a more touching death scene as the one Sean did. That moment redeemed Boromir & earned respect from Aragorn. I especially liked that Aragorn told Boromir what he wanted to hear, forgiveness. He told Boromir that he would not let our people fail Crying or Very sad


On the Directors commentary they stop talking and singled Bean's performance in this scene for special praise, IIRC the death scene was split over both sides of lunch, so Bean must have spent the morning rehearsing and working himself up into a great emotional state, then spent the afternoon pretending to lie dead hoping his lunch wasn't digesting too loudly, Viggo Mortensen came up with the idea that Aragorn takes Boromir's gauntlets and wears them as a tribute afterwards (though it's never directly mentioned in the film).

I always thought it was a bit ironic Aragorn comes from the rural North of Middle Earth (the shire is roughly analogous to the Midllands, and the Bree-Land isn't that far away(
and has a much posher accent and Sean Bean keeps his Northern accent despite Gondor being much further south (equivalent to the Mediterranean I suppose if you were to drop the middle earth map over a map of europe) and Boromir coming from high class.

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Post by halfwise on Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:19 pm

remember that Aragorn grew up in Rivendell. If that's not posh, nothing is.

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Post by Mrs Figg on Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:23 am

One of my favourite Bean Scenes is in Lothlorien with Aragorn, when they are talking about Minas Tirith. It always gets me. Sad

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Post by malickfan on Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:12 pm

I recently did a LOTR EE marathon with my girlfriend, she hadn't seen the films in many years (and never the extended editions) and for me it had been maybe five or six years since I watched all three in such close proximity to each other. Needless to say I found myself very much enjoyed re-watching the films after so long, even taking into account skateboarding Legolas, some execrable Jacksonims and plot changes (''Go home Sam!'' and the Faramir rewrite still piss me off) and Pippin the genial idiot. Sure they aren't particularly faithful to the spirit or characters of the book, but still very well made and hugely enjoyable fantasy blockbusters for the most part and miles ahead of the prequel trilogy that shall not be named.

Also feel I'm got a newly minted Tolkien geek to bring to the fold, she was engrossed by the films and bombarded me with all sorts of questions or queries about the lore, books and some of Jackson's questionable changes, I directed her to the Tolkien Gateway wiki and have promised to lend her The Hobbit and a few of the other shorter Tolkien works to get an introduction to his writing. Smile Cool

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:17 am

Good, good. Don't load too much crabbit all at once onto her neophyte shoulders though, best to let it grow slowly over time.

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Post by halfwise on Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:09 am

In the last couple of weeks I had rewatched all the extended editions films and appendices. They really are well made, and as you say, having grudgingly accepted the crabbit inducing parts you can enjoy the rest.

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Post by Ringdrotten on Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:33 pm

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she was engrossed by the films and bombarded me with all sorts of questions or queries about the lore, books and some of Jackson's questionable changes, I directed her to the Tolkien Gateway wiki and have promised to lend her The Hobbit and a few of the other shorter Tolkien works to get an introduction to his writing. Smile Cool      

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:04 pm

They really are well made- Halfy

{{Agreed -with caveats!}}

having grudgingly accepted the crabbit inducing parts- Halfy

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you can enjoy the rest.- Halfy

{{agreed, if you watch my edits or alternatively fall asleep during the bits I cut out Nod }}}

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Post by Lancebloke on Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:39 am

Funny to me that when I first watched them, I liked RotK the most and FotR the least. Probably the other way around now with tTT still in the middle.

Still would have preferred to have seen Glorfindel instead of Liv Tyler. All for inclusivitiy and all but we could have probably gotten that with more backstory on Galadriel and a less fawny Eowyn.
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