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Post by Forest Shepherd on Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:46 am

I think I've only seen the one of the river through the trees before. Those are lovely.

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Post by halfwise on Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:09 pm

I'm a bit confused by those. They are obviously enlarged reproductions and I couldn't understand why they were making such a big deal about them until they called them tapestries. But in my experience tapestries are done with colored thread, and try as I might I don't see any thread work in those.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:27 am

I'm pretty sure they're real tapestries, hence all the big deal made about them. Aubusson is known for its history of tapestry-making.

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Post by halfwise on Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:07 am

But I zoom up, no threads. For me the cut-off between wall hanging and tapestry is the threads have to be colored before they become part of the cloth, not painted over. I still don't know what's going on here.

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Post by Eldy on Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:50 am

https://www.cite-tapisserie.fr/en/contemporary-creation/aubusson-weaves-tolkien/ground-breaking-adaptation

The next stage is creating the ‘tapestry cartoons’ (painted plaster-board models) scaled to the real size of the future tapestries and that serve as a guide to the hand weavers during weaving. Bruno Ythier, curator if the Cité internationale de la tapisserie, gives an overview of this transposing technique: “It is Aubusson know-how that dates back to more than five hundred years ago. It is the work of the cartoon painter, who transposes the work. And it is not just a case of enlarging the work as the weavers point out with this anecdote: ‘You start with a tiny rose on the picture, and if you thoughtlessly enlarge it, you end up with a cabbage.’ The enlarged illustration needs to be reworked bit by bit to restore the spirit of the original. A whole range of technical parameters need to be taken into account, especially the properties of the wool itself. Wool absorbs light, which implies that colours must be as saturated as possible when the wool is dyed to obtain colours that are as vibrant in the woven fabric as in the original works.”

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The first cartoon, which sets the tone for entire wall hanging, was prepared by cartoon painter Delphine Mangeret. This piece was chosen as the graphic standard for the wall hanging as a whole because of its very tapestry-like nature and its similarities with works created within the National School of Decorative Art in Aubusson in the 1930s. The weaving committee was inspired to opt for a return to past traditions promoted by the School at that time through bold colours and a very specific technical draft influenced by 15th and 16th century tapestry work, and rarely in use today.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:05 am

Ah excellent, so... wait so those weren't the cartoons but the finished tapestries? And it's just hard to see the threads apparently.

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Post by halfwise on Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:52 pm

Yeah, I have a hard time believing thread work that fine can be done by hand, I think it's been mechanized. but have to look through that link Eldy provided in detail. If done by hand, it's jaw dropping.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:12 pm

It's definitely not done by machine, that would completely go against the whole "500-year-old tapestry tradition" thing they have going for them.

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Re: Tolkien related video's.

Post by halfwise on Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:35 pm

The ride of the Rohirrim was okay until the end when the guy started preaching at the end.  F-off!

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Post by azriel on Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:20 pm


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Post by halfwise on Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:46 pm

I don't think Nicholas Hoult has the hidden depths to carry the character of JRRT. Not saying I have another twenty-something actor on offer, but I wasn't quite feeling it from that. You need someone with an old soul.

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Post by azriel on Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:39 pm

Have to agree with you on that one. I didn't feel comfortable, but then Im more used to Tolkien as a Elderly Gentleman type. Tweed suits & a pipe.

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Post by halfwise on Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:00 pm

He was writing Lost Tales while in the trenches. He can't come across as your typical 20 year old. He needs to look like part of him is always off somewhere else. There's more than enough youth around who have that look about them, Hoult doesn't.

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Post by halfwise on Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:16 pm

I don't like the bald statement that hobbits have pointy ears.  Tolkien only mentioned (once) in a letter to a publisher that he envisions them as having ears that are only slightly pointy and 'elvish'.

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