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Post by azriel on Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:57 pm

That does sound better Dave

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:20 am

Well the typist of the original phrase was Finnish, I believe, and not great at English. That was my attempt to correct what he said. Razz

Thanks though

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Post by halfwise on Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:29 pm

Well now we have to see the original, and judge between the Finnish and American, though I've heard it's hard to tell mortals apart.

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Post by David H on Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:59 pm

Forest Shepherd wrote:Help me out, this is making me crabbit. I came across this sentence recently, and I can't figure out whether all this is required for the sentence to be correct, grammatically.

"I am looking forward to this Tolkien movie with a thousand times more enthusiasm than that with which I am looking forward to the Amazon series."

Can we simplify this down, or is all of this required? And no need to comment about how English is a "living language" and how grammar is "just made up anyway" or any of that lazy tripe! I just want to know about what is technically correct.


Ellipsis (the avoidance of unnecessary repetition) is as important a grammatical rule as any [rule], so you're technically more grammatically correct to omit the second "looking forward". Also, the "that with which" appears to compare different enthusiasms rather than different ways of looking forward, so it seems much clearer to leave it out.

That leaves,
"I am looking forward to this Tolkien movie with a thousand times more enthusiasm than I am to the Amazon series."  
Simpler, clearer, and more grammatical but with the hyperbole left intact. Is that what you were asking for?

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:45 am

Acceptable

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