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Post by Mrs Figg on Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:36 pm

done Dickens too

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Post by azriel on Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:43 pm

And Top Gear Smile

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:57 pm



{{{MMmmmm- couldn't they find a Sottish actress to play Mary Queen of Scots!!
And why is the trailer full of pc nonsense about them being women in a world of men- their rivalry had nothing to do with men, or men wanting rid of Mary because she was a woman, it was about the fact Mary was Catholic and wanted a Catholic Monarchy, that was it. Mad }}}}}

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:20 pm

It's clearly meant as a vehicle to show if two of the hottest young actresses in hollywood today can carry a period drama. Nothing to do with their nationality so long as they can look the part. I'm not sure it works - they both look too young (though perhaps that's historically accurate?)

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Post by azriel on Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:54 pm

I think Margot Robbie just gets away with it but Saoirse looks to young to me. There is always a touch of glamour in historical films tho I prefer honesty over glam. I don't know why but I always assumed Mary had dark brown hair ? I may have been wrong. Two redheads in the same room ? must have been cracking rows Smile

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:01 pm

{{My issue is more with content-  one short trailer they play the strong women in  world of evil men card several times over! and not once does the trailer mention the actual contentious issue that was the heart of everything between them- Mary's Catholicism. }}

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:50 pm

I'm wondering how long they had to sit on top of Margot before she let them pluck her eyebrows. Poor thing looks hideous.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:31 am

{{Their brains need plucking! That Mary film would be like making a film about the relationship between Churchill and Hitler and producing a trailer where they talk only about the women in their lives as if they were the issue and forget to mention WW2! Mad Mad  The whole deal with Elizabeth and Mary is it was about which religion the Monarch was going to represent and so shape the country- had Elizabeth not won we would have had no Elizabethean Renaissance, no Shakespeare! It was a hugely monumental pivot point but it was all about religion, not men doing the poor women folk down as that trailer seems to imply - the two most powerful people in the country were women!!!  Mad  When you are Queen there is no fucking glass ceiling left to shatter! Mad }}

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Post by halfwise on Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:39 am

I've heard that Shakespeare may have been a closet Catholic.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:02 am

{{Cant imagine it seeing as almost everything he wrote and did would have got him killed under a Catholic regime.

Think it might be beside the point however that Elizabeth and Mary were not two poor women struggling in a world of men- they ruled the men, quite literally appointed by God. The issue was of religion not sexism. The trailer gets sexism in several times in a few minutes, it gets the main religious contention between them which is the heart of their story and their interactions and ultimately decides their fates, none, it doesn't mention it.
That smacks to me just from the trailer as a film more interested in pushing an agenda and rewriting the times than it is in telling the historical tale of Mary, Queen of Scots.

-for the record the historical Elizabeth and Mary never met, there was no war, there as a skirmish of sorts but it was in Scotland over Mary's son and if he should be heir and again came down to the same Catholic/Protestant arguments (there is also a complicated sub line here she married the man who probably murdered her husband and then she got blamed for the murder)-I always felt Shakespeare used this in Richard the III), her followers were eventually defeated at Langside and Mary fled south seeking help from Elizabeth- the English took her into 'protective' custody whilst her supporters kept up the fight in Scotland, she ended up in Westminster where the 'casket letters' were produced pointing to her conspiring to murder her former husband and conspiring with Bothwell that was it, Elizabeth had no choice but to off her (the letters are widely held to be fake and written by the Queens maid Mary Beattie, to ensure Elizabeth would support James as heir ahead of Mary as Queen) but it was not a war between England and Scotland as implied here in the trailer, at best it was a very small scale civil war in Scotland.}}

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Post by David H on Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:11 pm

How's the historical accuracy of the radio adaptation? scratch


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Post by azriel on Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:25 pm

Margaret Beaufort lived to be in her 60's & was deemed quite powerful. And there was another lady, I cant remember her name Mad , she became very rich & powerful & lived into her 80's I think. They executed her in the end, might also have been called Elisabeth ? Elizabeth Woodville was a tough cookie also.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:34 pm

How's the historical accuracy of the radio adaptation?- David

{{better than that trailer still!  Mad 
Here's Michelle Gomez giving Mary a proper Scots accent (though in fact she probably sounded French as she went there at age 3 and didn't return until she was 17)- but for those wondering what Glaswegian really sounds like, this is it (they subtitle it for your convenience! Smile  skip 20 seconds in for the start) }}}


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Post by Forest Shepherd on Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:40 pm

Ugh, they got Tennant to join in on that mess?

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Post by halfwise on Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:03 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:How's the historical accuracy of the radio adaptation?- David

{{better than that trailer still!  Mad 
Here's Michelle Gomez giving Mary a proper Scots accent (though in fact she probably sounded French as she went there at age 3 and didn't return until she was 17)- but for those wondering what Glaswegian really sounds like, this is it (they subtitle it for your convenience! Smile  skip 20 seconds in for the start) }}}



That is a fiendishly brilliant performance by Michelle Gomez.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:23 pm

{{She is fiendishly brilliant and not a little nuts in every role Ive seen her in. First encountered her work in the often surreal Green Wing. Thnks to which when she got he gig as the Master in Who I knew she would be good, and boy was she!  }}


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Post by Mrs Figg on Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:33 am

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{{{MMmmmm- couldn't they find a Sottish actress to play Mary Queen of Scots!!
And why is the trailer full of pc nonsense about them being women in a world of men- their rivalry had nothing to do with men, or men wanting rid of Mary because she was a woman, it was about the fact Mary was Catholic and wanted a Catholic Monarchy, that was it. Mad }}}}}


that looks and sounds dire. is it a spoof?

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Post by chris63 on Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:16 am

Hope this is as good as it looks.


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Post by azriel on Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:01 pm

I kinda like these films Smile a lot of people hate them, Aquaman looks just a tad better than "Justice League", which, IMO was a big bag of shat. All films have reels of CGI which is the recipe for fantasy films now. I do crave a film that is completely natural & where the actors had to dam well act. No pink, blue, red, yellow orange screen to get them out of a hole. Gritty stories, real facial expressions, & FFS decent dialogue, not this cut corners slang & cheesy repetitive lines that were amusing in the 80's but even granny is tired of hearing it ! Smile

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Post by halfwise on Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:26 pm

chris63 wrote:Hope this is as good as it looks.



James Cameron and Robert Rodrigues is an interesting combination.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:19 am

GeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEeeeeeez that's some anime-inspired toss. Those EYES. :facepalm:

I mean, what kind of in-story designer thought, "hey, let's give this cyborg insect-eyes!"

(Alita "Battle Angel", I mean.)

I thought James McAvoy was wonderful in Split, but I'm not sure the charm will last through a sequel.

Speaking of which, as derivative as parts of this trailer are (Our world is changing... Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes ), I appreciated the use of "Clair de Lune" and actually quite enjoyed this one. A good trailer, I think, despite its flaws. Just the emotional appeal of the second half alone with that crescendo choral arrangement, goodness!



Funnily enough, there are two corollaries between this trailer and the one for Wakefield: the use of Debussy, and the presence of Bryan Cranston, who appeared in the previous American Godzilla film.


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Post by azriel on Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:55 pm

Ooooh, I like that last clip Forest ( Wakefield) Very Happy Definitely watch that.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:09 pm

It's already out! Go fer it.

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:28 pm

really want to see the Winnie the Pooh film. it looks like a real heartbreaker. I love you


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