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Post by Lorient Avandi on Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:12 pm

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had difficulty finding exact details on the rights allowed by the deal from a reputable source. My thing is, if they do have access to the Silmarillion/ Histories/Unfinished Tales/etc I'll be rather excited for this show and what it can bring to the table as something set in the Second Age; but if they only have the same rights Warner Bros had, except for television rather than film, I'll be really worried because it's set in the Second Age.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:17 pm

{{I broadly agree there Lorient- if they have all the rights then there is enough snippets, versions and narratives written out about Numenor to at least give a pretty solid story line, main characters and events. As well as a flavour of some of the major players personalities. Enough to work with. Yes they will still have to invent the detail and largely the characters but at least all the key events and people are laid out in some detail.

If they dont have the rights and have to substitute that material with entirely rights free invented stuff of their own it will be awful, just fanwank with a budget. }}

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Post by Lancebloke on Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:57 pm

Lancebloke wrote:Well... map at least should confirm this is post second age since Beleriand isn't in there.

The caption "Three Rings for the Elven-kings under sky," suggests either second age or some focus on the Elves. Perhaps this going to tell of the events leading up to the Last Alliance? That could be interesting to see... the old lands of the Elves, maybe when Moria was populated etc.


And my idea got shot down....

Given the first map I think this will be entirely plausible long term
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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:03 pm

{{{ Right now Lance your idea is just as plausible as a Numenor based one- maybe they will do both over more than one series, its possible with GoT showing its possible to hold an audiences attention over a long span of time with indepth characters and narratives that they might be thinking longer term than imagined so far by us.

If it does cover the forging of the Rings, or the lead up to the Last Alliance the above caveats remain however- if they have the rights to the whole estate there is plenty there to work with, if they have to invent it and make sure they dont write what Tolkien did to avoid getting sued because they dont have the rights, then it will be bad anyway. }}

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Post by azriel on Thu May 23, 2019 9:10 am

I do kinda cringe when people say "with this kind of money how can they fail", well, very easily actually. Money, & heaps of it, is no guarantee whatsoever that anything can be flawless or perfect. It could be an utter failure. But one lives in hope that all turns out well. Im itching as much as anyone else to see this Amazon version tho my ears muffle up towards deafness when Peejers name is mentioned. His input can be lending out costumes & sets, armour, furniture & the odd CGI.

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Post by Lorient Avandi on Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:55 pm

azriel wrote:I do kinda cringe when people say "with this kind of money how can they fail", well, very easily actually. Money, & heaps of it, is no guarantee whatsoever that anything can be flawless or perfect. It could be an utter failure.  But one lives in hope that all turns out well. Im itching as much as anyone else to see this Amazon version tho my ears muffle up towards deafness when Peejers name is mentioned. His input can be lending out costumes & sets, armour, furniture & the odd CGI.

I mean... the last 2 mainline Star Wars films anyone...? Throwing money at something doesn't mean it will be a success...

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Post by halfwise on Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:55 pm

This actually makes a couple points I hadn't thought of.  Though it seems the point that Sauron left the Ring behind when he allowed himself to be captured and taken to Numenor was incorrect: Tolkien in letter 211 says Sauron had it with him and used it to dominate the Numenorians.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/everything-we-know-about-the-lord-of-the-rings-amazon-series/

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Post by halfwise on Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:07 pm

Geez. This guy keeps saying the second Age ended 500 years before LotR. Rolling Eyes

Then he focusses on Gandalf, who of course never appears in the Second Age. And he mentions casting hobbits. Could we have someone who knows what they are doing make some videos?

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Sat Jun 29, 2019 4:57 pm

I've avoided watching any of these videos as I'm assuming they're:

1. Clickbait

2. Full of errors.

3. Based almost entirely on speculation.

I mean, a map on twitter is not a definitive statement about the nature of your show, and speculating about who will play young Sauron... seems a little early there.


Halfwise, where the heck would he have left it, and why? So the Numenoreans wouldn't take it from him? From what I remember, Sauron was more the prisoner who gets to come along in some comfort, not one who is robbed of his belongings.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:54 am

Fuuuuck

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:25 am

{{ NZ bad. So not good there. Plus it will make it look and feel too much like PJ's abominations. Guilt by association!

Also slightly confused- the directors tweet would seem to make it clear it will indeed be second age stuff, yet the production tweets and response refer to the production as 'The Lord of the Rings' - so what is it? Both? }}

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:13 pm

Yes, I suppose they should call it more "Middle-earth Project" or something. But in terms of name-recognition, TLotR is easy money.

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Post by halfwise on Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:05 pm

Somehow I had missed that an earlier map issued by Amazon was clearly from the early third age.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/03/07/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-tv-series-show-prequel-plot-details-cast-budget

This makes it pretty clear that what we are looking at is a series about the transition period. My guess is that the forging of the rings and wars surrounding it will only be shown in flashback.

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Post by Amarië on Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:52 pm

Young Sauron? What?

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Post by halfwise on Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:04 pm

Annatar will be wearing a bandana and backpack.

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Post by Amarië on Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:14 pm

Cowabunga, dude.

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Post by halfwise on Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:09 pm

I never wondered about that term until it came from you. Seems it originated on the Howdy Doody show. Then took on a life of its own.

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Post by Amarië on Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:49 pm

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Post by halfwise on Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:47 pm

It's very satisfying when used in the right context. Best paired with a rope swing.

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Exactly! Very Happy I love you

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Post by halfwise on Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:20 pm

Hmm....looks elvish to me. The first casting for a recurring role is a young lady. Let the speculations begin!

https://deadline.com/2019/07/the-lord-of-the-rings-amazon-tv-series-markella-kavenagh-cast-series-regular-cast-member-1202650680/

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:31 am

That nose doesn't look very Elven to me! Too mushroomy.
Very strange all this.

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