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Post by halfwise on Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:55 am

Wow, you're a tough date! Me, I see big eyes like that on a young woman and that's all she wrote.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:15 am

Well, I mean, she has an Australian sort of "come rustle sheep with me and sail down to Gold Coast in a skiff on the profits" sort of attraction, but yeah, I don't see that nose fitting on an elf.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:20 am

{{{ My crabbit senses are tingling1 Mad No announcement made by tv these days seems short of virtue signalling first and foremost, the thing they want to get out their first and most, and the first announcement for a main character is a young woman. After what happened to Who I am deeply suspicious of any such signalling. Suspect }}

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Post by halfwise on Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:03 pm

Maybe she's Queen Beruthiel.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:30 pm

{{ Given today's hysterical climate she is probably the young Aragorn! Mad }}

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Post by halfwise on Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:00 pm

Went back to the original source; her name will be "Tyra". Presumably.

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/lord-of-the-rings-series-amazon-cast-markella-kavenagh-1203268175/

One of the Banks clan according to Google. Odo should be pleased.

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Post by Amarië on Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:34 pm

halfwise wrote:Went back to the original source; her name will be "Tyra".  Presumably.

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/lord-of-the-rings-series-amazon-cast-markella-kavenagh-1203268175/

One of the Banks clan according to Google.  Odo should be pleased.

Tyra Banks? Suspect

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:12 pm

{{ Yeah real Tolkien sounding name there- got to hope it is just a codename and not her character, its got to be a joke. }}

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Post by Amarië on Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:13 pm

Tyra is a Norse name (from Thor), if they stick with it's roots* and not use the Taira-variety, then it could work in a Middle Earth setting. But not with Banks. That's got to be a joke.
 
("Týra", with y like in Danny, but longer.)

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Post by halfwise on Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:26 pm

Yes, I made a joke.

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Post by Amarië on Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:11 pm

Laughing After PJ it's hard to tell a joke from real news.

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{{ I thought Tolkien mainly used Norse names for dwarves? Maybe she will be a dwarf. Shocked Its plausible given the 2nd age setting in that female dwarves must have existed, and some major dwarf stuff goes on then. Not so plausible she is a female dwarf out having adventures given what Tolkien says of how dwarves guard their women-folk more like they are precious jewels to be coveted than as individuals to be given free reign. }}

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:21 am

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that this is a PR move, she's just the first cast member for whom news has gotten out.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:44 am

{{ Not a stretch, just very cynical Twisted Evil I dont trust marketing people. Mad }}

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Post by halfwise on Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:03 pm

Looking closer at Amazon's map, I see Imladris is not there. This places the map at or before the forging of the rings. Since I don't recall anything of note happening between the beginning of the second age and the times shortly before the forging of the rings, I think the first season at least will be dealing with events in Eregion with maybe a second storyline to do with Numenor's expansion into Middle Earth.

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:11 am

Why do they keep referring to this as "Lord of the Rings"?!! Banghead

And why are they so insecure they feel they have to quote from PJ's LotR at length?

And this particular narrator doesn't seem to be aware of the hard leading 'c' in Celembrimbor. Probably because he's American and thinks "Celtic" is pronounces "Seltic".

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:35 pm

You can pronounce Celtic with an S.

Bloody hard C imperialists! Mad

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:51 pm

Only if an American talking about a basketball team.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:07 pm

{{ Yup you can, even Celtic has a soft s variant here in Scotland. But only when talking about the football team Celtic, pronounced Seltic. If your talking about the Celts as a people however its a hard K sound Keltic. }}

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:24 pm

they pull the same sports name nonsense in a Celtic country? Shocked

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'We adopted the words Celt and Celtic from two linguistic sources.
Originally, in the 17th century, we took the words from the French, pronounced with a soft C.
Later, especially in academic uses, historians went back to the original Latin Celtae for the people of Gaul which they pronounced with a hard C.
References to the history and culture of the ancient people thus tended to follow the Latin, more modern references, such as football, tended to stick to the French.
Hence the Celts (pronounced Kelts) and Celtic FC (pronounced Seltic) - Daily express

{{ Celtic (Seltic) the team were established in 1887, so I suspect using the soft c variant for a sports teams began here first. }}

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Post by halfwise on Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:51 pm

I should have known the French would be behind it.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:56 am

I looked up some junk.

I believe it was the Greek keltoi that was the original original.

From the Middle Ages until more modern times Latin itself was all Frenchified, so that when the word Celtic came into the English language in the 17th century, scholars of Latin at the time would have spoken Celtae with an S sound.

Of course, none of this changes that the name Celebrimbor does indeed start with a K sound.

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