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Post by azriel on Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:07 am

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Post by Mrs Figg on Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:55 am

Jacob Rees Mogg thinks he owns democracy, the mind blowing arrogance of the creep is astounding.

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:56 am

we are now being threatened with a military crackdown if we rebel at a no deal. Hola amigos, the UK is now Venezuela in the North.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:07 am

{{ Well the cliff edge approaches.

The Irish PM, and Ireland remains a EU member of course, says if there is no backstop there is no deal as the EU won't ratify it, it needs all EU member states to sign off on it, and Ireland won't without the backstop. Even the possibility of a hard border between north and southern Ireland is unacceptable to Ireland.

May's main problem of course is that having the backstop is unacceptable to many of her own party who won't vote for her deal whilst its in the deal.
And then you have the DUP, the Northern Ireland Unionist  party who May needs the votes of to have a hope of winning. The backstop is unacceptable to them because anything which links north of Ireland with south more than it does Northern Ireland with mainland UK is unacceptable as it is seen as weakening the Union.

And we have what, two months to untangle that knot, a knot that despite endless talk not a single thread of it has been untangled since the referendum result. Don't fancy the chances much of May having the skills to weave her way through this in time. And that make sit more likely that Parliament will desperately agree to a bad deal at the last panicked minute just to avoid the cliff edge, which no one save Rees-Mogg's lot seem to think going over is a good idea.}}

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Post by azriel on Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:21 pm


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Post by azriel on Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:06 am

"Kick up the gallbladder" !! Laughing Laughing Razz

"You've really fucked it for us all little one" Laughing Laughing Razz
Loved that Vid Petty !! slap laugh

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Re: UK in/out referendum on the EU (Brexit vs Bremain)

Post by Mrs Figg on Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:57 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:


that was quite brilliant. lol! slap laugh

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Post by halfwise on Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:42 pm

The voices were a perfect match. Very impressive.

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Re: UK in/out referendum on the EU (Brexit vs Bremain)

Post by Pettytyrant101 Today at 12:48 am

{{For those not keeping up with events- and I cant say I blame you- things have been moving apace in the UK political world- not moving ANYWHERE but they are going around in circles very fast!

OK so what's basically happening now is May is sticking to her plan that got historically defeated, that plan being- 'I'm sticking to my plan but will renegotiate the backstop terms to something Parliament will vote for, but I can't tell you how yet'. Europe is sticking to - 'the backstop is non-renegotiable there is nothing to tell you' and May has as a result delayed the vote in Parliament yet again pushing it back to the end of the month, so she can chase her tale again renegotiating the thing Europe say is not up for renegotiation.
This has left her open to the accusation her only actual plan is to force the vote back and back till its so close to the leave date that the only choices Parliament will face is back her plan or crash out with a no deal Brexit. Doing so in the hope she can get her plan through solely on the basis that it is the better of two evils.

This might you think leaves her and her government a tad vulnerable to the Labour opposition. But lest we forget this is Corbyns Labour- and its falling apart before our eyes. Instead of dealing with Brexit, instead of coming up with a plan of their own that is better, instead of challenging the Tories Labour are literally falling apart. With a total of 8 MP's having left the party to form a new centre ground political party. And more are likely to follow.

Their gripes appear to be bullying from the top of the party, not listening to the party members, not following through on the conference vote to push for a 2nd referendum on Brexit, and anti-Semitism within the ranks not being addressed by Corbyn.

Whilst Tories have not splintered into new parties, yet, they are just as divided however on Brexit and Europe and Reece-Mogg and his lot may as well be in a different party from Ken Clarke and his lot so wide is the gulf between them on this.

So in short we are now hurtling towards the cliff edge with no feasible plan, no solution to the border at N Ireland, and a PM trying to convince us she she can do a deal on something the other side say is already a done deal and can't be changed, and both parties are consumed with internal fighting, fracturing and naval-gazing and no one is steering the ship.

So looking good then! Mad }}}

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Today at 4:46 am

{{{Now three Tories have resigned to join the new party formed by the ex-Labour MP's! }}}

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Re: UK in/out referendum on the EU (Brexit vs Bremain)

Post by David H Today at 9:15 am

Shocked Wow! Shocked

Thanks for the update Petty!


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