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Post by Orwell on Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:46 am

This may be the last act (on this subject) of a desperate hobbit, but does anyone here at all have the first DVD release of FotR? NOT the Extended Version. If so, please look at the Rivendell scenes of Elrond. I still can't let it sleep, this vision of Elrong reciting the Ring Poem... Until someone who has the first DVD release tells me I'm just imagining this, I will continue to cling grimly to this hope {{{{{that I can still make Petty look stupid Twisted Evil }}}}}

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:48 am

Evil or Very Mad As a mod I feel I should remove this thread for being spurious and fictous. And I should add possibly malicous!

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Post by Orwell on Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:56 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote: Evil or Very Mad As a mod I feel I should remove this thread for being spurious and fictous. And I should add possibly malicous!

No, no, not all - unless you can unencrypt things Mad - but I think it fair that we try all avenues. As you know, I'm not a trouble maker {{{{did I really just say that? Embarassed }}}}, I just want to cross all the T's. I have a clear memory of Elrond doing it. Now, it might just be my memory of an "imagined" scene that I now think happened (and, yes, the evidence so far does point in that direction), but I still need to Confirm the facts. Once someone checks the first (non-extended) DVD release, then I'll have no further reason to think I'm the only one on this Forum who is right. (Not that I'd gain any pleasure or satsfaction by calling you all stupid heads.)

NB "fictous"? I mean, really. Spelling mistakes are okay by me, but that almost sounds like a real word - and should be, I feel. What could it mean, though? (Thinking cap goes on).

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:57 am

Picts from Finland.

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Post by Orwell on Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:02 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Picts from Finland.

Nuh - need to do better. Something like "something that has a fictional aspect or quality"? Doesn't sound groovy enough... but maybe that would be good enough...mmm... Suspect

Oh....

Orwell: "I remember Elrond reciting the Ring Poem."

Petty: "That does sound like it has a fictous quality."

Orwell: "No, I'm sure I didn't just imagine it."

Petty: "No, surely not, I didn't mean that. What I mean is, you remember imagining it but don't remember imagining it as a figment of your imagination."

Orwell: "That's as clear as mud."

Petty: "That phrase itself has a fictous aspect!"

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:12 am

I'll go with that- makes perfect sense to me, but then I'm well buckied what the hell's your excuse? drunken (Did that sound drunkenly beligerent? Is beligerent even a word? Mmmm maybe I just imagined it sounded beligerent and that beligerent was a word, now thats fictous).

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Post by Orwell on Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:13 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:I'll go with that- makes perfect sense to me, but then I'm well buckied what the hell's your excuse? drunken (Did that sound drunkenly beligerent? Is beligerent even a word? Mmmm maybe I just imagined it sounded beligerent and that beligerent was a word, now thats fictous).

Beligerent may very well be fictous, I believe. Or has my English gone wonkers too? Suspect

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:15 am

Possibly... whats a wonker? Suspect Its worrying close to something I am sure you did not mean. Shocked

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Post by Orwell on Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:15 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Possibly... whats a wonker? Suspect Its worrying close to something I am sure you did not mean. Shocked

A mental state - not a "kind" of person.

Err.... "bonkers" might be what I was looking for. "Wonky" though = shoddy, or unsteady where I come from. That could mean somone's brain going "wonky", and therefore "gone astray or unsteady in thinking" or even a person becoming "wonkers".


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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:17 am

Blimey my workplace is full of wonkers then! Shocked

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Post by Orwell on Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:19 am

I do have to get out of the habit of posting before I've edited. Very Happy

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:20 am

Very Happy

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Post by Orwell on Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:22 am

I wonder if anyone - in the distant future - will dig here and find out why this Thread was originally made?

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Post by Kafria on Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:42 pm

Sorry can't help, did have the originals, but junked them as soon as I got the EE!

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Post by Orwell on Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:45 pm

Kafria wrote:Sorry can't help, did have the originals, but junked them as soon as I got the EE!

And can't remember Elrond's recital, pray tell?

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Post by Kafria on Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:29 pm

Sorry! No! Crying or Very sad

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Post by Orwell on Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:44 pm

Kafria wrote:Sorry! No! Crying or Very sad

Ha! So you can't absolutely discount the possibility! Cool

Anyone else!?

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Post by chris63 on Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:17 am

I'm pretty sure he does say it.
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Post by Amarië on Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:28 am

I am not even sure where any of my LOTR movies are, but is sounds odd that Elrond would say the poem. And with the help of Google, I find that in both versions it is Gandalf who recites the poem during the Council of Elrond, and Elrond is not too happy about it.

Sorry Orwell...

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Post by chris63 on Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:42 am

Gandalf recites it in the blackspeech, but still pretty sure Elrond says it.

http://www.tk421.net/lotr/film/fotr/16.html

He doesnt say it here.
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Post by Amarië on Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:42 am

Gandalf also says it in common tongue in the Shire, after the text appeared on the Ring.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:42 pm

Very Happy ....you are only encouraging his poor demented mental state by even pretending to look for him- dont encourage him!

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Post by Amarië on Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:30 pm

Pah! Mice! DP only eats shirefol... Grey Haven tuna! Dolphin and ocean dwelling maia/Valar safe Grey Haven tuna.

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Post by Orwell on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:48 am

chris63 wrote:Gandalf recites it in the blackspeech, but still pretty sure Elrond says it.

http://www.tk421.net/lotr/film/fotr/16.html

He doesnt say it here.

Could it be on that non-extended version? Or somewhere in an out-take.

Btw I don't feel quite so crazy now. Thanks Chris.

I just can remember (imagine?) Elrond saying it, and have a clear vision of it, and even remember (imagine?) that I did not like the way he recited it very much. Peculiar imaginings --- probably "accurate" memories! Very Happy

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Post by chris63 on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:02 am

I do remember him saying it, i can even picture it in my head.
Maybe its in the making of dvd's Shrugging
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