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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:46 am

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Post by Orwell on Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:05 am

Laughing Good one, Centurion. Laughing She's not really so bad, especially when she's standing behind me.. Ow ow ouch!

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:20 pm

while Orwells gone to de-Gnome the garden, I thought I may ask you Petty if you have read Ben Aaronovich who writes for Who? hes very good. Surprised

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:34 pm

No I have never read his books- he wrote two strories for McCoy's Doctor, Remembrance of the Daleks and Battlefield- not too keen on Battlefield but Remembrance of the Daleks has its moments.

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Post by Orwell on Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:12 am

Watched it. Great adventure. I felt a bit sick myself with the build up of radiation sickness. It was a strange feeling. I could see why children (and adults) back in the day would have been traumatized by the show. It certainly builds tension. The Doctor was certainly an irresponsible old bugger. Can't wait to Saturday night again! Six days to go?! Shocked I'tll be worse than waiting for Christmas... Crying or Very sad Oh yes, I did not fail to miss the Thal honey-girl... I estimate she'd be about 75 to 80 now. I wonder if you've got her phone number, Petty? Very Happy

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:30 am

Anyone else got round to watching these yet?

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Agree about the radiation sickness, its nicely done the way it creeps up on them.
I also like old skool Daleks- what I mean by that is when you see Daleks collectively in NuWho they are pretty much interchangable- original Daleks were more individual- they all still hated any other living thing and want to kill it imediately or exploit it then kill it- but they have disagreements, they question each othr and just seem to have more personality about them somehow.
Also I find interesting is how they have presented the Doctor since the start- in the opening episodes he kidnaps his new companions, then he wants to bash in a cavemans head with a rock, and here he delibretly lies just to trick them into goingi nto the city to satisfy his own curiousity.* Yet despite this Hartnell somehow still manages to make him likeable.

*One of those extrapolating from the future views on this is that the Doctor knows full well which planet they are on and that is why he is so keen to go see what is going on.
Its also a testimony to Moffats fanhood and understanding of the show compared to RTD that he has made a major point of his version of the Doctor to be centered around River's Rule 1- The Doctor Lies.


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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:20 pm

Should really make a mention here of the design of the Daleks- for all oneof their appendags is a sink plunger it hit a chord.
The man in charge of Who at the time was firmly against 'any bug-eyed monsters' and was dead set against the Dalek stroy. It was only aired becasue no other story was ready at the time to go straight into production. It was of course the episodes which cemented Doctor Who in the nations mind.
After its obvious popularity the head told Verity Lambert (the Producer and Dalek story advocate) that he would be leaving the direction of the show to her becasue "she clearly knew it better than he did."
Should also give Miss Lambert a shout out here, she was a lone women in a mans BBC given a Producers role (very rare for a women then at the BBC) and she made it the most succesful sci-fi in tv history.
Anyway back to the Dal;eks themselves. I think part of their success is they represent a similar sort of thinking to Nazi's and the kids watching were the post-war generation, if their parents didn't live through it then grandparents certainly did and its was very much still at the forefront of national thinking.
But there is also an added British dimension to Daleks and a warning- you don't get Dalek leaders as such- well you do but most Daleks are basically that most British of things- beurocrats- they migth want to exterminate you but only after a proper plan has been formulated and discussed and all the right boxes ticked on the forms- then they will exterminate you. They reflect something about the WW2 in that- the people who became guards at concentration camps, who handed neighbours over to the SS for acting suspicous ect were not crazy political rulers they were peoples neioghbours, normal unassuming people of the sort you meet everyday- yet capable under the right circumstances of taking part in the most horrendous acts= the Daleks are this to the extreme- the beurocrat elevated to monster.
It also says something for the look of the Daleks that they have basically not changed much over the years- some look roper than others (Tom Bakers Genesis of the Daleks ones look excellent- the much later ones in the McCOy era look terrible- the difference was budget though not design).
The genral shape and outline of a Dalek is ingrained on the British psyche and the voices- which must have seemed futuristic at the time and now sound a bit like an angry Stephen Hawkins nevertheless are grating, unpleasant and harsh and I think especially for children still frightens.

Daleks through the Ages


And the latest incarnations.



And updated vid of an old favourite. The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy Dalek entry.


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Re: Classic Who for Discussion

Post by Kafria on Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:13 pm

Just watched through! and enjoyed too Very Happy

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I must say I like the way that all of them are involved in solving problems, as my experience has only been nuwho, it can sometimes seem as if only the doctor can solve problems and the only help he gets is unintentional!

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Re: Classic Who for Discussion

Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:29 pm

Kafria,
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that's another area I would say Moffat has begun to readress the balance- he makes a point in setting up Amy's character to make her pro-active on her own and in fact in her second episode the Beast Below its her, not the Doctor who sees the solution.

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Post by Orwell on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:15 am

It's Friday! Laughing Do you what that means, Petty? Yes - only one day to go. cheers

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Post by Orwell on Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:09 pm

Ooooh... it's that day of the week, Petty. Very Happy

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:57 am

It is indeed Orwell! cheers






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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:37 pm

Not sure if anyone is still watching! But here's the concluding part to the Daleks story.



And here is a two parter in what is, I should warn you, much ado about nothing, and whilst the nothing aspect can be a bit disappointing the ado bit makes it one of my favourites of the original Doctor (and also therefore reminiscent of the series 5 episode Amy's Choice).



And the conclusion.


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Post by Orwell on Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:23 pm

I've been neglectful, I know, Petty... Sad I've got catching up to do. Soon will be finished nightshift -- and then I'm on Leave again! cheers I'll catch up with the last three epidodes of Clasic Who... and then it'll be these latest... And I've got lots of Needlehole Mysteries and Mrs Figgs Colourful Extravaganzas to catch up with too... and then there's Kafria's and your your stuff too... My gawd... scratch I'll be entertaineded into exhaustion... Shocked {{{I'm looking forward to being entertainded into exhaustion, mind. Nod }}}

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:12 pm

Glad to know you are hanging in there Orwell. At least you'll have plenty to look forward to when you get round to doing the catching up.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:40 pm

No one watching? Sad
I'm so keen to discuss edge of destruction and brink of distaster!

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Post by Orwell on Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:53 pm

I'm off now. Give me a day or two and I'll be in the right frame to catch up, Petty. I don't suppose we could have an Intermission this week? Maybe? I have got about seven episodes to catch up with! (And about eighty Forumshire Tales! Shocked )

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:57 pm

Well as I think you are the only other person watching along that could be arranged without much distruption.
For the record though I still consider doing so to be a favour to you and I have noted it in the book of favours owed!

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Post by Orwell on Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:06 am

Favours, hey? Suspect Speaking of your favours - where's my video? Banghead

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:24 am

Why isnt there a whistling nonchalantly whilst walking away emoticon? Mad

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fair weathered flint-pants!


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Post by Kafria on Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:21 pm

I need to catch up too! - Watched the firsst three Daleks but no further yet, will endevour to do so soon!

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Post by Orwell on Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:10 pm

Sometimes, what with life, and reading all the new 'postings' here, you just can't always find a good time to watch even Classic Who... Each time I've thought, okay I'll catch up now, you can bet your bottom dollar I'm feeling absolutely rooted at the time.... Life is a pain (and then you die Very Happy ). Later today, maybe...

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:59 pm

Should be classic Who night tonight. Sad
You lot better at least be catching up on last weeks tonight!!! Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Kafria on Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:27 pm

No, sorry .. I have been seduced by a whole new crossover fandom

Warning - maybe sherlock spoilers for those who haven't finished season 2!

Superwholock!





Which takes over from my previous crossover fandom - superwho!


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