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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:53 pm

Picard does have a thing for rogue archeologists- the mans got history there with Vash.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:41 am

Interview with Matt Smith from the Guardian. Its mainly about his theatre work.


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Post by Mrs Figg on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:15 pm

well I just saw the 'God Complex' and 'Closing Time', and all I can say is. ..Really? I mean Really?? you have got to be kidding me?? Shocked

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Post by Kafria on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:20 pm

Which are they? I am rubbish at names of episodes Mad

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Post by Tinuviel on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:25 pm

I loved Closing Time! Anything with Craig I love I love you

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:26 pm

God Complex is the minataur one- classic baddie from the classic era. With the hotel/prison-
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and the one where the Doctor breaks Amy's trust in him (I would have thought you would be pleased Mrs Figg given this is when Amy stops being a regular companion).
Closing Time is the sequal to the Lodger with the baby Stormagedon (and Matts excellent speech to the baby in the nursery)- it also has proper classic Who Cybermen- not stomping about in hordes but reaching out of cupboards at you.

Yup Tin The Lodger and Closing Time remain popular episodes, Craig seems to have struck a cord as a character with fans- except Mrs Figg, obviously. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Kafria on Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:29 pm

Loved closing time! how could you not, it tells so much of where the doctor is!


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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:59 am

Both those episodes are all about the Doctor's state of mind- I love the end of the minatour one
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when its lying dying and talking about all the years of pain and suffering and that it is time for it to end- and then the Doctor realises its not talking about itself, but about him- wonderful moment. Also thought the nurse character, the Muslim girl, was a good one and the extra guilt it built in the Doctor as the dead bodies layed out in the dining room continued to grow no matter what he did
I also thought was very powerful.


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During the original telvised run of series 5 the BBC accidently ran a trailer for the Graham Norton Show right over the climatic cliffhanger to the first part of the Angels story.

The Offense


The Reaction (over 5000 complaints and this wonderful expletive including rant from TV critic Charlie Brooker)


And the response.


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Post by Amarië on Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:13 am

Awwww, how precious! Cartoon Norton dancing with the soldiers! Not disruptive to the story in any way! Laughing

I really dislike ads and trailers that appear over the show that is running. DON'T DO THAT!!

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:36 am

Yeah hate that- hate it too when the announcer talks over a great theme tune. Mad

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Post by Mrs Figg on Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:31 pm

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God complex gets my prize for comedy wild boar costume, and running about aimlessly. and Closing Time gets my award for irritating screaming kid, with a gold medal for "too many pies/bursts his Cyberman." It should be serious but its beyond trite and cheesy. If this wins awards the competition must be dire.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:58 pm

God Complex has some wonderful moments in it for me, the room of giggling ventrilquist dolls could be straight out of the 4th Doctor run. The comedic lines for the guy from the race of cowards is very funny;

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Gibbis: I was at work. I'm in town planning. We're lining all the highways with trees so invading forces can march in the shade.
Rory: Oh.
Gibbis: It's nice, isn't it.
and the Doctors brilliant interpretation of Gibbs race that suddenly makes you see him in a whole new light;
The Doctor: Your civilization is one of the oldest in the galaxy and now I see why. Cowardice isn't quaint, it's sly, aggressive.

Or the entire stuff with the muslim nurse, but especially its ending-

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The Doctor: You started to praise it, didn't you? {she nods}. Rita, come back please. We'll find away to stop it, I swear.
Rita: No, I need to get as far away from you all as possible.
The Doctor: No no no. The creature only wants whoever's praising it.
Rita: And then you'll put yourself in its way.
The Doctor: I'm coming to get you. Block out the fear and stay focused on your belief.
Rita: The hotel will keep us apart. I'll likely be fifty miles away by now. I want you to do one last favor, Doctor. I can feel the Rapture approaching like a wave. I don't want you to witness this. I want you to remember me the way I was.
Doctor: You stay where you are.
Rita: Please, let me be robbed of my faith in private.
The Doctor: Look, Rita! Look!, go into the room, lock the door.
Rita: I'm not frightened, I'm blessed, Doctor. I'm at peace. I'm gonna hang up.
The Doctor: No no no!
Rita: Goodbye Doctor. Thank you for trying.
The Doctor: Rita please! Please!

And the beautiful little scene with Amy/Amelia in her room, Smith is superb in that scene-

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Amy: Doctor, it's happening. It's changing me. It's changing my thoughts.
The Doctor: I can't save you from it. There's nothing I can do to stop this.
Amy: What?
The Doctor: I stole your childhood and now I've led you by the hand to your death. But the worst thing is I knew. I knew this would happen. This is what always happens. Forget your faith in me. I took you with me because I was vain. Because I wanted to be adored. Look at you, glorious Pond. The Girl Who Waited for me. I'm not a hero. I really am just a madman in a box. And it's time we say each other as we really are. Amy Williams. It's time to stop waiting.

And how can you not like the way the minataurs final words are about the Doctor?

Spoiler:
What's it saying?
The Doctor: An ancient creature, drenched in the blood of the innocents. Drifting in space through an endless shifting maze. Such a creature, death would be a gift. Then accept it. And sleep well. {he pauses} I wasn't talking about myself.

These two episodes are the
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final bits in the Silences plan to bring the Doctor to the conclusion its time for him to die, its time to stop running and just gve up. God Complex is the episode he chooses to do that and go on his farewell tour, Closing Time is the episode where he decides to not just give up without at least a fight. Craig is the only friend the Doctor has left to turn to at this point. He can't go to previous folks, he never looks back, Craig is the only person he doesn't feel responsible for, or guilty for and who has no expectations of him.
Sorry you can't seem to see these episodes beyond them being 'running about aimlessly' and a 'comedy boar costume' (I thought the main creatures 'suit' was excellently done and looked really good) they are about so much more than that anyway, about the Doctors state of mind, about the consequences of travelling with him and they are the culmination of the Silences plan.



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Post by Mrs Figg on Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:13 pm

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yeah its all very deep and meaningful, but I was bored to tears. How can I care about a bloke in a screamingly fake rubber wild boar suit? and some chubby guy that realizes he loves his kid? beyond trite just dont care. I cant remember ever being bored with Dr Who before, never, and I have been watching it for about 140 years. So something aint right, and it isnt me.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:25 pm

It might not just be you Mrs Figg, but its not most folks I reckon. Not judgng by viewing figures, DVD sales, episode downloads and critical acclaim anyway.

How you could not be moved at scenes like this which are the emotional climax of nearly two years of tv I don't know.

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And I like the suit. Much better than some cgi thing like the werewolf in the Tennant one. And it certainly looks a hell of a lot better than the classic series ones in Horns of Nimon.

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Post by Mrs Figg on Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:11 pm

Believe me, I want to like it, and its weird that I dont, but I really really dont. No

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Tis weird indeed Mrs Figg- and such a shame- maybe the new series will appeal more to you with a new companion promised and all.

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Post by Amarië on Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:04 pm

We saw The doctor's wife (peculiar title), The rebel flesh and The Almost People today. I love you Rory!! I love you
Thought we'd go back to season 4 and meet River, since Finrod hasn't seen... well, any dr Who before this, and I still haven't see the ending of Forest of the dead (thank you VERY much BBC entertainment!!). If we can find them that is.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:08 pm

I still haven't see the ending of Forest of the dead- Amarie Shocked

Well I insist you watch it before you proceed one episode further. All the River episodes with the 11th Doctor kind of assume you have seen these episodes!
I too failed to turn up anywhere you can watch it online (must be one ofthe BBC's regular purging of Who periods) but I can't leave you in such limbo Amarie so I am uploading the episode to my skydrive for you.

Moffat likes a provocative episode title- Doctors Wife, Lets Kill Hitler, The God Complex.
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Post by Amarië on Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:52 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:I still haven't see the ending of Forest of the dead- Amarie Shocked

Well I insist you watch it before you proceed one episode further. All the River episodes with the 11th Doctor kind of assume you have seen these episodes!
I too failed to turn up anywhere you can watch it online (must be one ofthe BBC's regular purging of Who periods) but I can't leave you in such limbo Amarie so I am uploading the episode to my skydrive for you.

Moffat likes a provocative episode title- Doctors Wife, Lets Kill Hitler, The God Complex.
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Did you see the twist coming at the end of the Almost People regarding flesh Amy? (I didn't)

Oh you are the BESTEST!!! Hope you means episodes though. Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead, so that man of mine gets to see both. Embarassed

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As for the twist, I certainly didn't expect contractions! Poor Girl! Shocked I thought it had to be some doubleness somehow (d'uh) but was mostly thinking time line-wibbly wobbly stuff. Totally knew the doctors would swap shoes though, but that one was a bit obvious.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:34 am

Just Forest of the Dead at the moment its 90 % uploaded- I am really tight for space but if there is room I will upload Silence too- if there isn't room you will need to download Forest first so I can delete it and replace it with Silence.

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The shoe thing is typical Moffat misdirection. He gets you to focus on that so you miss the big one- the Amy double. Works a treat- well it got me anyway, I never saw it coming.

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Forest is up, trying to squeeze on Silence now.

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Post by Amarië on Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:11 am

I'll get on it when I get home from work, was way past midnight when I posted my last post so I haven't had the time to do anything about it.

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I always expect something unexpected to happen at the very end. That's when the clues are given or when we realize we have been given a clue without really noticing.

Also we saw that Tennat episode with the bus in the desert and Lady Catherine cat burglar (since we didn't find Silence and Finrod had already fetched a new bowl of chips or crisp or whatever you call it. Wink ) What an embarrassing ending! Thank Eru for the time rift! Laughing

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Sorry Amarie- I couldnt fit both episodes on the skydrive- but I am going to have to set up somehthing else for the remainder of my edits anyway so will see what I can do- best planin short term is download forest episode- let me know when you have it and I will delete it to make space for the other episode.

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Done! And we got hold of the forest too, from somewhere else. Thank you! I love you

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So you have both parts now?

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