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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:50 pm

{{One of only about two things the otherwise appalling Hitchhikers film did well- their version of the theme music, the Eagles Journey of the Magi- it was always a great tune, but I really enjoy this one for the cleanness and clarity and arrangement of the banjo in it }}



{{Oddly enough by a strange coincidence the other thing they got right was their other theme tune (the film has two for some reason) which whilst an original song is one of the few things which is very much in the mood and feel of the original radio shows }}}


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Post by Bluebottle on Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:23 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{Oddly enough by a strange coincidence the other thing they got right was their other theme tune (the film has two for some reason) which whilst an original song is one of the few things which is very much in the mood and feel of the original radio shows }}}


The song is glorious, best part of the movie. Nod I also liked the whale and Petunias part. Nod



But, yeah, much the rest is very much meh much.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:51 pm

much the rest is very much meh much.- Blue

{{Its way worse than that- the things they get so wrong are almost too many to count. On the small list of things I like - some of the special effects, Sam Rockwell could be an excellent Zaphod, but they neuter him entirely by making him a drooling idiot for half the film, and the one thing visually interesting about him everyone knows, that he has two heads, they screw by hiding the second head in his neck for some reason then remove it entirely for half the film!  Mad   Evil or Very Mad
Then there is Arthur Dent, now I am notoriously NOT a proud Englishman, but if I was the weasel Arthur of the films would offend- Arthur Dent is no action hero, he'd rather have a quiet afternoon down the village pub or a nice cup of tea on the lawn watching the cricket- but when pushed he stands up to authority, gods and a plethora of other entities in the name of fair play, decency and trying to get a proper cup of tea. Arthur Dent in short has balls. They may be discreet and he may never boast or acknowledge in polite conversation that he has, but when push comes to shove, there they are! Freeman's Dent is a social awkward recreation of his role in the Office where the humour around Arthur is centered on 'cringe-humour' arising from the awkwardness of the situation- seen from the off in the party scene where he meets Trillian and says something embarrassing that everyone accidentally hears.
And Marvin!!! Oh dear god how can they have missed the point so much?- why did they make him look like he was built to be depressed? with his big head that always hangs downwards, the sad eyes and 'mouth'? The whole point of the joke is that Marvin, like all the rest of the systems on the Heart of Gold are prototypes- Marvin was designed by the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation to be 'You're plastic pal who is fun to be with!'- he is depressed because every device the Corporation makes is screwed up in some way. So the doors get so much satisfaction out of just doing their job of opening and closing they can't help but sigh at the pleasure of a job well done, Eddie the ships computer is hyperactive and over enthusiastic and Marvin is so intelligent and has been given such massive processing powers that being a robot made for menial tasks depresses him beyond belief. That's the joke- to make Marvin look like he was supposed to be depressed as a design choice is just mind mindbogglingly bad!!!!!
Oh and the nutramatic- in the film it does exactly what its supposed to- reads your mind and taste buds in super complex ways then gives you exactly what you want to eat or drink- only its not supposed to work- the whole joke is that after doing all that scanning and complicated stuff in invariably produces an undrinkable beverage that is not entirely unlike tea!
The worst misunderstanding as a joke is probably the last 'joke' in the film when they fly off to the Restaurant at the end of the universe only for Marvin to tell them they are going the wrong way as the restaurant is 'at the other end of the universe'.  WTF? Its at the end of Time not Space, assuming space even has an end. Its unbelievable they could made that pathetic a joke at the complete expense of the source material.
And then there is the neutering of Trillian from one of the most independent characters in the story to the centre of a love triangle between Arthur and Zaphod Mad  Oh and the complete miscasting of Ford too (and not because he is black, that's irrelevant he's an alien what does it matter? but because he is just really wrong for the role in terms of performance and that the character is portrayed often as an idiot, which is one of the few things he isn't in the radio plays or books).
And I havent even touche don how badly they screw up the plot or the set ups for it  Evil or Very Mad
Oh dear Blue- see what you've done now- you've started me on a crabbit rant!!! Twisted Evil better drink some buckie to calm down drunken drunken  }}}

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Re: Douglas Adams chat and listening

Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:07 pm

{{Examples of point missing!
Heres is the film version of the nutramatic scene- note how most of it is used as an excuse to spend time on the completely unnecessary love triagle nonsense and is completely devoid of any of the observational humour or any of the points of the original concept- plus just how different the film Arthur is from the original }}



{{radio original scene animated}}



{{And one for you Blue Smile }}


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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:45 pm

{{The final part of the Hitchhikers radio show is being broadast on BBC radio 4 and is available on iplayer (the Hexagonal Phase)- the original radio cast reunite one final time to complete the Hitchhikers set. Haven't listened to the first episode yet, but as this is the only one not based on a book by Adams, and I was not a big fan of the book its based on, going to be interesting to see if it works better as radio and with the original cast. My thoughts on it to follow as I hope to get a chance to listen to it later today }}}

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