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Post by Forest Shepherd on Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:01 pm

The Lankhmar series of short stories by Fritz Lieber. Details the careers of Fafrhd and the Grey Mouser, a heavy-drinking, not-above-thievery, sometimes-sell-swords, patronised-by-universe-traveling-sorcerers, women-loving, Death-defying, magic-meddling, disguise-donning pair of adventurers. They have been re-published in chronological volumes. The best place to start is with White Wolf Publishing's Ill Met in Lankhmar, but the best stories in the series, so far for me, are contained within the second volume: Lean Times in Lankhmar.

A Confederacy of Dunces. It's been years since I read it, but as I recall it's about a delightfully entitled, pompous, fat author who has delusions of grandeur and several debilitating dependencies. He lives at home with his mother in her house in New Orleans. He's basically a neck-beard, but from before the time of the internet. The main character, Ignatius J. Reilly, waddles  through one uncomfortable situation after another. From the outrage he expresses towards his mother's attempts to get him to find a job, to his complete inability to actually work, to his decidedly un-healthy relationship with his girlfriend: an intellectual of the worst kind. It's hilarious and fun.

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Post by halfwise on Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:57 pm

I'm glad to see Fritz Lieber get recognition for something beyond Canticle for Liebowitz - a great book which seems to have overshadowed anything else he did.

I actually couldn't stand Confederacy of Dunces. The author committed suicide before it was published and I nearly committed suicide before I finished it. I found nothing cheerful or illuminating in it.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:44 pm

I don't remember the book being cheerful or illuminating either, I remember it for the risible main character's many amusing foibles.

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Post by halfwise on Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:24 pm

You have to be in the right type of mindset to enjoy a book with a main character you can't sympathize with. Terry Pratchett makes one of his main characters, Rincewind, a cowardly me-first type, yet with his pluckiness and pitch-perfect sense of his place in the lower echelons of the universe, you can't help but love the guy. I need characters I can love. I can't love anyone in Confederacy of Dunces.

For this reason I also have to be in the right frame of mind to enjoy The Great Gatsby. I can enjoy if as a satire of the hollow lives of a particular age, but I'm not being pulled through by love of the characters. I just don't care about any of them.

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:12 am

Yeah I get it. Books can have a powerful influence over your mood and thoughts, more so than any other medium, I think. If a book is clouding my mind with unpleasantness, than to hell with it!

I remember that reading The Troop, a horror story about a group of Boy Scouts and their Troopmaster being caught on an island with a government-created super-tapeworm, really brought my mood down. It was so dark and grim.

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Post by azriel on Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:29 pm

Im reading "Look Back in Anger" by John Osbourne. The way he can put his feelings into words is so refreshing. He says what Im feeling ( if I was in that situation) & uses such a variety of words. I swear I hear Richard Burton as I read. I saw the film yonks ago when I was a wee lad & Burton played it with his trade mark fierceness Smile Im only 70 pages in at the moment but, I can really feel the mood, the passion & pent up anger from the main character. The pages do feel alive & Im kept thinking how this will go. I can see the lives of the characters so easy in my head thanks to the dialogue. so far, a dam good read Smile

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Post by Pettytyrant101 on Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:32 pm

{{ Never read any of his stuff, but you do make it sound very tempting to give it a go Az Nod }}

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:17 am

Isn't that a play?

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Post by azriel on Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:19 pm

Yes, Forest, It was a play then a film with Richard Burton playing the angry man who seems to blame everyone & life itself. The way the book reads is refreshing & honest, I like the criticism & sarcasm, it doesn't beat about the bush but 'says' what we think & wished to say Smile

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:34 am

Ah so Osbourne made it into a book then.

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