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Post by Radaghast on Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:00 pm

Couldn't really figure where else to put this and it seemed to deserve its own thread. Anyway, it's fairly amusing and pretty controversial, guaranteed to piss pretty much everyone off Very Happy

John Dolan wrote:The charges: treason and sabotage. Jackson's three Lord of the Rings films are designed to sabotage all the most noble and unworldly elements of Tolkien's story, depriving poor Middle Earth disciples of their last dream refuge. Jackson's motive for this odious crime is in part simple lust for fame and money. He may not have set out to destroy Tolkien fans' capacity for faith in the trilogy; the poisoning of their mental Middle Earths may be, let's say, "collateral damage" in Jackson's campaign to make a version of LOTR which, by reversing the charge of Tolkien's books, would reassure and flatter "real-world" people, the ones who read the Financial section and like sports -- in the process creating a sort of cinematic deprogramming for the faithful, an anti-LOTR. Or was it malice?

http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7168

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Post by Mrs Figg on Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:16 pm

whats he even talking about?  scratch it doesnt make sense.

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Post by Radaghast on Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:17 pm

Laughing

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Post by azriel on Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:25 pm

I was ok with the 1st half till it got to here,then.... cyclops 
"by reversing the charge of Tolkien's books, would reassure and flatter "real-world" people, the ones who read the Financial section and like sports -- in the process creating a sort of cinematic deprogramming for the faithful, an anti-LOTR. Or was it malice?"

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Post by Radaghast on Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:28 pm

Yeah, it's a somewhat strange, though interesting, perspective.

I agree with some of the points, not all.
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Post by Eldorion on Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:58 pm

Oh no, those damn people who like sports! Rolling Eyes

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Post by Radaghast on Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:04 pm

Very Happy

Incidentally, if not for this article I'd probably never have known Viggo was in Carlito's Way.

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Post by Orwell on Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:44 am

Your Avatar is cool btw Raddy. PJ looks like a hunted fugitive. Very Happy 

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Post by Radaghast on Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:44 pm

Thanks, Orwell!

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Post by Forest Shepherd on Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:07 am

Radaghast wrote:Thanks, Orwell!

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Post by Radaghast on Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:17 am

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Post by Radaghast on Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:29 am

Holy crap! I forgot to post the damned link!  :facepalm: 

http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7168

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Post by thegooddoctor on Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:28 am

i think the problem with this article, and with a great deal of criticism, is that it's trying to take an interesting angle first rather than examine the work first and build up his critique from there. i agree that the movies don't come close to doing justice to the original trilogy, but to really understand how they failed, you have to start with the movie and examine it piece by piece. then you can start to make some generalizations.

the dismissal of people who read the financial section or watch sports is all about the author's bias, and has nothing to do with peter jackson or the movies.

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Post by Radaghast on Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:11 pm

Yeah, I almost have to think the author is being ironic but one can't be sure.

I largely agreed about the casting. There certainly seems to be an "MTV" quality to it.

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Post by halfwise on Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:15 pm

The reference to financial times and sports is to American corporate culture, a sort of second phase of the frat boy culture. In other words: those of no intellect, craving only money.

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